TRD sway bar for sedan

[Violin]

OK it's on. A few pictures:

[Violin]

BTW -this is on my liftback - same part #.

[BokChoi]

awesome, easy install?

[hystria]

Originally Posted by Violin

BTW -this is on my liftback - same part #.

it looks so nice how does it change the handling ?

[Violin]

It took maybe 1/2 hour altogether because you have to put the car up on stands and remove the rear wheels. Other than that, it was a straightforward bolt on. 14mm wrenches on the shock bolts, 15mm on the new hardware.

It does tighten up the rear and reduces body roll, especially under power. I'm looking forward to getting it out on a nice twisty road.

[hystria]

cool! and does the steering feel any different ? maybe more precise ?

[Violin]

It just feels a little different - it takes a little more pressure on the wheel through the turn - like the front wheels want to snap back straight a little more.

[hystria]

probably my next mod too

[redglare45]

Originally Posted by Violin

It took maybe 1/2 hour altogether because you have to put the car up on stands and remove the rear wheels. Other than that, it was a straightforward bolt on. 14mm wrenches on the shock bolts, 15mm on the new hardware.

It does tighten up the rear and reduces body roll, especially under power. I'm looking forward to getting it out on a nice twisty road.

Nice pics Violin . Yeah, I definitely noticed a the rear end being tighter and sure do feel a difference. Now it's time for a strut bar.

[largeorangefont]

Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

A rear sway bar on a torsion beam rear suspension is really not doing anything, because the torsion beam rear suspension is already bulided in one piece, what the torsion beam rear suspension need is a rear sturt bar that goes on top of both rear shocks in the back cabin to really help to reduce body roll, just like what the front sturt bar does and goes under the hood.

That is 100% wrong.

Strut bars do not decrease body roll, they decrease chassis flex. Also, you don't understand the difference between a strut and a shock. A strut is a load bearing member of the suspension. If you remove it the car will not be able to sit on its wheels. A shock is non load bearing, and if you removed it alone, the car would still sit on its wheels.

The very essence of a torsion beam suspension is based on lateral flex. Anything you put on the beam (a swaybar) to reduce the flex of the arms will decrease body roll. Actually, This type of suspension responds BETTER to a sway bar than other types because the bar is bolted directly to the arms, no endlinks, no bushings, nothing to dampen the bar.

Hope this helps.

Ashley

[Chris07LB]

I knew Ashley would school that responce with some very helpful answers.

[ChinoCharles]

Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

what ever you say, i had the TRD rear sway bar on my old echo, and i didnt feel sh!t, maybe you think it does make a difference because you paid big bucks for it, and it's all in your head, bottom line is, i did not feel any difference it made and im not going to lie about it to make myself happy just because i pay the bucks for it, enjoy your rear sway bar.

[Go4th]

Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

enjoy your rear sway bar.

[Violin]

$150 is "big bucks"?

Well helllooo Mrs. Vanderbilt!

[ChinoCharles]

For the record, I wasn't laughing with him...

[whoguy]

Hi,

That sway bar is cool. Yes, sway bars definitely make a difference. In this case it's adding torsional stiffness to the bar, resulting in more transfer of weight to the rear under cornering. Yes, the car will corner more flatly, will it corner faster? Maybe... depending on tyre. If you transfer too much weight to the rear...i.e. ultra stiff sway bar... you'll be slippen and slidden in the rear all over the place.

Thanks

[largeorangefont]

Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

what ever you say, i had the TRD rear sway bar on my old echo, and i didnt feel sh!t, maybe you think it does make a difference because you paid big bucks for it, and it's all in your head, bottom line is, i did not feel any difference it made and im not going to lie about it to make myself happy just because i pay the bucks for it, enjoy your rear sway bar.

I'm not trying to call you out or anything, but you info was just wrong. You provide insightful information in other areas but in this case it is incorrect. I just don't like seeing misinformation spread. Nothing personal.

I don't have a bar yet, but will be ordering one very soon. The Xa/Xb owners tell a very different story than you regarding the effectivness of the rear sway bars. It seems like the Scions have a suspension closer in design to ours than the older Echos. Mabye the echo bar wasn't designed as well or was less effective for whatever reason. I am confidant a rear sway bar will provide the best handling gain in the Yaris platform aside from tires.

Ashley

[largeorangefont]

Originally Posted by Chris07LB

I knew Ashley would school that responce with some very helpful answers.

You know me already :)