Camcon VVTi Cam Timing Controller Thoughts? - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Yoda · 07-21-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cfeng

just bought one yesterday

good luck wish i saw this earlier. Would have told you will probly be better of with emanage or FIC. Its not been tested much on a N/A yaris but the celica guys post some positive results. It should make power tho, you just need to advance the timing. Dont think you would need to adjust the fuel at all really the ecu is good for that.

cfeng · 07-22-2010, 02:56 AM

Thanks Yoda. Got a book from amazon too, How to Tune and Modify Engine Management Systems by Jeff Hartman. Next I need, AF meter, data logger, and 3-axis accelerometer. Might as well buy headers now since I need to weld in an extra bung. Anyone know what steel the DC headers are made of?

cali yaris · 07-22-2010, 12:21 PM

The header is so short, I would put the extra bung just past it; easier and accurate enough for tuning. All of my turbo projects have the bung on the downpipe.

evo165 · 09-02-2010, 06:28 AM

Hi cfeng, any update on your Camcon review?

henry33 · 09-02-2010, 09:28 AM

is the camcon really working or it is uselless ?

cali yaris · 09-02-2010, 04:37 PM

Jason tuned with it on his race car, it worked great for him, so we do know it works.

henry33 · 09-03-2010, 04:28 AM

and do we have some proofs on dyno etc ? ;)

Jason@SportsCar · 09-03-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by henry33

and do we have some proofs on dyno etc ? ;)

I have dyno sheets. But we will not share them at this time.

Once we are done with the project all of the data will be out there. I will tell you we are making more power now NA than this car did when it had FI.

You don't have to believe. When we looked at the CamCon we thought it had ebay crap written all over it. But our tuner was able to make good gains with it, I would say better than any single bolt-on (except FI or NOS).

There is no upside for me to lie about it... The unit came with the car, and we have taken it out and moved on to an AEM EMS series 2. Is the CamCon anywhere near as good as stand alone? Not a chance, you have very limited control. But considering it is a fraction of the cost of stand alone, and it works as advertised, I would say it is a good value.

From what we have seen Toyota left a lot on the table in the ECU dept. We have unlocked more power with tuning on the Yaris than any other NA car we have done. Just getting it over 6500rpm is a big gain - unfortunately a gain the CamCon will not get you.

henry33 · 09-03-2010, 05:02 PM

jason : where can I find more info about your project ? I am very interested in the tuning the yaris ;)
thanks

cali yaris · 09-03-2010, 08:31 PM

Henry, read his post. They aren't releasing more than very general data until the project is through, and the articles are published.

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Once we are done with the project all of the data will be out there.

stevethegimp · 09-06-2010, 10:30 PM

Looks like i'll be a guinea pig too. Ordered a cc-111 today.

sleey0 · 09-06-2010, 11:42 PM

How would this run along, say, the blitz sc?

Could it be done or does the piggyback that come with the blitz supercede this?

blacksandiegovitz · 09-07-2010, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stevethegimp

Looks like i'll be a guinea pig too. Ordered a cc-111 today.

^^ where did you order it from/ what modds are you running ???

stevethegimp · 09-07-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blacksandiegovitz

^^ where did you order it from/ what modds are you running ???

I ordered it from http://shop.edoperformance.com/power...a-p-10597.html! Seemed like the best deal on a new one.

I am currently installing 1zz injectors and a throttle body in preparation for a future turbo install.

johnny_vitz · 09-09-2010, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

Jason tuned with it on his race car, it worked great for him, so we do know it works.

Would this show a decent gain if i'm supercharged (vs. N/A) ?
Greddy kit with emanage blue if it matters...

stevethegimp · 10-20-2010, 01:44 AM

Not to revive a dead thread but I have a relatively big update. I recieved my Camcon about a month ago but was hit with a bout of unemployment and decided not to install it until I had a job again. Well good news for me and good news for anyone interested in a camcon unit. I installed it today!

I am a complete noob when it comes to crimping, splicing, and general wiring but I was able to install the unit in about 3 hours and have gotten no CELs or engine fires in the process! The male/female crimpers were probably the most problematic but with some ingenuity and some anger I was able to get everything tapped and installed.

I still need to get everything heat shielded and permanently installed plus drill a proper hole through the firewall but I will try to post my impressions once I start tinkering with the actual settings in the next few days. I will try the settings posted by Power Enterprises first before anything.

Have some pictures and if anyone needs help with wiring diagrams (has to be around the 2009 Yaris year) I can certainly work on them!

Hurray it came in!

First thoughts- "Oh my god what have I gotten myself into!?"

My handy dandy wiring chart. Also super blurry.

Success! No CELs and no fire in the engine bay!

True pros hang their piggybacks through the passenger window during the test drive. Way too tired to drill a proper hole through the firewall tonight.

henry33 · 10-20-2010, 04:04 AM

cool what is the feeling of the drive now ?
keep us updated ?

cfeng · 10-20-2010, 04:56 AM

thats amazing. mine is still on my desk. im waiting to install my headers and hopefully that micro image manifold first.

07-22-2010, 12:21 PM	#21
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	The header is so short, I would put the extra bung just past it; easier and accurate enough for tuning. All of my turbo projects have the bung on the downpipe. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

09-02-2010, 06:28 AM	#22
evo165 View User's Garage Drives: peArL yAvItZ!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tIny dOts iN AsiA Posts: 156	Hi cfeng, any update on your Camcon review? __________________ 1NZ-FE Yaris with JDM RS front & rear bumper \| JDM Vitz RS taillamp \| JDM Vitz window visors \| JDM Vitz Netz logos \| JDM leather steering wheel & shift knob \| 4k HID \| K&N panel filter \| Fujitsubo Wagolis exhaust \| NST 10% crank pully \| KYB Excel-G shocks \| NF210 Springs \| Cusco 4 points lower arm bar & Type OS top struct bar \| RZCrew sub-frame collars \| Ultra Racing 19mm rear sway bar & rear lower & center braces \| PG Rear 13mm hub spacers \| Exzess 2-pot calipers with 282mm rotors \| Runstop Rear Disc \| SSR Semi-Forge Type F 15" rims \| Michelin Pilot Sport 3 195/55/15 tyres

09-02-2010, 04:37 PM	#24
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	Jason tuned with it on his race car, it worked great for him, so we do know it works. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

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henry33 Drives: yaris1.33 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: slovakia Posts: 425	and do we have some proofs on dyno etc ? ;)

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henry33 Drives: yaris1.33 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: slovakia Posts: 425	jason : where can I find more info about your project ? I am very interested in the tuning the yaris ;) thanks

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09-06-2010, 11:42 PM	#30
sleey0 Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 899	How would this run along, say, the blitz sc? Could it be done or does the piggyback that come with the blitz supercede this?

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stevethegimp View User's Garage Drives: '09 Blazing Blue 3D LB Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 64	Not to revive a dead thread but I have a relatively big update. I recieved my Camcon about a month ago but was hit with a bout of unemployment and decided not to install it until I had a job again. Well good news for me and good news for anyone interested in a camcon unit. I installed it today! I am a complete noob when it comes to crimping, splicing, and general wiring but I was able to install the unit in about 3 hours and have gotten no CELs or engine fires in the process! The male/female crimpers were probably the most problematic but with some ingenuity and some anger I was able to get everything tapped and installed. I still need to get everything heat shielded and permanently installed plus drill a proper hole through the firewall but I will try to post my impressions once I start tinkering with the actual settings in the next few days. I will try the settings posted by Power Enterprises first before anything. Have some pictures and if anyone needs help with wiring diagrams (has to be around the 2009 Yaris year) I can certainly work on them! Hurray it came in! First thoughts- "Oh my god what have I gotten myself into!?" My handy dandy wiring chart. Also super blurry. Success! No CELs and no fire in the engine bay! True pros hang their piggybacks through the passenger window during the test drive. Way too tired to drill a proper hole through the firewall tonight.

10-20-2010, 04:04 AM	#35
henry33 Drives: yaris1.33 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: slovakia Posts: 425	cool what is the feeling of the drive now ? keep us updated ?

10-20-2010, 04:56 AM	#36
cfeng Drives: Yaris 2010 Liftback Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 64	thats amazing. mine is still on my desk. im waiting to install my headers and hopefully that micro image manifold first.