Why won't Toyota USA give us the TS?

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by ItalianYaris

Sad really, in the US they have 5.0 liters V8's rating at 300HP while here in EU we have 1.0 liters 3cyl that have 100 HP. So if we do the simple math, If we did a V8 5.0 L we would get somewhere in the what? 600HP? hmmmm. You guys in the US really need some models like the Focus RS, and the Type R's, etc., to show you what muscle and technology really is!!!!!!!

The 4.6 Mustang, not 5.0, is rated at 300hp and 315hp
Their 5.4 is rated at 500hp, and around 600hp
Not counting special build Mustangs that can be bought right off the Ford showroom floor...(Saleen 4.6, 550hp - Roush 4.6, 510hp - Steeda 5.0, 650hp)

ZR1, 6.2, 638hp, 0-60mph 3.4 seconds
CTS-V, 6.2, 556hp, 0-60mph 3.9 seconds

...or a working man's car like my old '05 GTO, when stock, 6.0, 400hp, 0-60 4.7 seconds

[Bob_VT]

Originally Posted by Split

Toyota USA doesn't give you the TS here because they want you to buy the Scion xD. Which is a fine vehicle anyway, so just go buy that instead.

+1

[ItalianYaris]

Originally Posted by Tamago

a yaris comparable to the xD, let's see..........

liftback 5 door S
msrp 15,125
epa 29/36

scion xD
msrp 15,450
epa 26/32
both automatics


and guess which one will be marked up by the dealer because it "saves on gas" ?

and for that extra couple hundred dollars, you get a much nicer interior, better seats, more power, a better stereo, more room.

so yeah, not to sound like an ass or anything. I know is only a game of badges, but seriously! Do you actually believe that this thing:



Is better looking than this?



Boy, that is the real reason why the US is not getting cars like the TS and the Type R, etc.

[ItalianYaris]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

The 4.6 Mustang, not 5.0, is rated at 300hp and 315hp
Their 5.4 is rated at 500hp, and around 600hp
Not counting special build Mustangs that can be bought right off the Ford showroom floor...(Saleen 4.6, 550hp - Roush 4.6, 510hp - Steeda 5.0, 650hp)

ZR1, 6.2, 638hp, 0-60mph 3.4 seconds
CTS-V, 6.2, 556hp, 0-60mph 3.9 seconds

...or a working man's car like my old '05 GTO, when stock, 6.0, 400hp, 0-60 4.7 seconds

Yes, I agree! But still, you talk about a 4.6 liter V8 being amazing and rated at 300HP, when a STI UK edition hits over 315 HP being a 2.0 liter 4 cyl. and not to mention the price. I dont argue that the US has amazing cars, i mean, the new camaro, just stunning! but before a ZR1, I would go for a porsche, and before a CTS-V, I would go for an M3 or an M5. My father had the pleasure of owning a Zr1, it lasted 2 weeks before one of the cyl. decided to break thru the bonnet, apparently a manufacturing fault, or so chevy said. So yeah. that was the end of that.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by ItalianYaris

Yes, I agree! But still, you talk about a 4.6 liter V8 being amazing and rated at 300HP, when a STI UK edition hits over 315 HP being a 2.0 liter 4 cyl. and not to mention the price. I dont argue that the US has amazing cars, i mean, the new camaro, just stunning! but before a ZR1, I would go for a porsche, and before a CTS-V, I would go for an M3 or an M5. My father had the pleasure of owning a Zr1, it lasted 2 weeks before one of the cyl. decided to break thru the bonnet, apparently a manufacturing fault, or so chevy said. So yeah. that was the end of that.

The STI couldn't do it without forced induction, that's why the stock 4.6 Mustang makes 300hp and 315hp, but the forced induction 4.6s that I mentioned make 510hp and 550hp. And over here the STI is about 10 grand more than a Mustang GT. Funny that you mentioned the M5...it did really good in last weeks Motorweek's CTS-V vs the M5...close, but CTS-V beat the M5 in the quarter mile, lap times...almost every test that was done, even at the gas pump. They even mentioned that the CTS-V could be bought, with enough money left over to pick up a new Series 1 BMW, for the price of the M5.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by ItalianYaris

so yeah, not to sound like an ass or anything. I know is only a game of badges, but seriously! Do you actually believe that this thing:



Is better looking than this?



Boy, that is the real reason why the US is not getting cars like the TS and the Type R, etc.

this will be my final post on yarisworld.

i love that you're comparing a bone stock xD to a modified yaris. very clever.

i can do the same!



vs



beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. the yaris looks cheap and out dated.

[Thirty-Nine]

Personally, I like the looks of the Yaris better than the xD, but that's just my opinion. Like Tamago said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[PETERPOOP]

Originally Posted by Tamago

beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. the yaris looks cheap and out dated.

xAs for the win!

[CtrlAltDefeat]

I'm sorry, but the xD looks like a mini van even when modded. It looks like a modded mini van. I understand that it comes with better standard features but the extra $2400 (msrp) is not worth it for an ugly van err car. It's also interesting that for it's extra hp, the xD's power to weight ratio is 20lb/hp and the Yaris is 21lb/hp not that much of a difference. Oh and it's also of note that the Yaris' user rating on msn autos is higher then the xD in all categories (including performance and styling), with 10s in quality and recommendation. I have owned mine for about 9 months now and love every trip in it. I still find myself admiring it when I'm walking towards it... For the price, Yaris is the best!

[ddongbap]

Even the xD has the Yaris A/C controls, except sideways.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

I'm sorry, but the xD looks like a mini van even when modded. It looks like a modded mini van. I understand that it comes with better standard features but the extra $2400 (msrp) is not worth it for an ugly van err car. It's also interesting that for it's extra hp, the xD's power to weight ratio is 20lb/hp and the Yaris is 21lb/hp not that much of a difference. Oh and it's also of note that the Yaris' user rating on msn autos is higher then the xD in all categories (including performance and styling), with 10s in quality and recommendation. I have owned mine for about 9 months now and love every trip in it. I still find myself admiring it when I'm walking towards it... For the price, Yaris is the best!

+1

I've owned mine for over a year and feel the same way about my little Yaris. I'd maybe smile a little more if I was walking towards an Audi A5 tho'

[tomato]

Originally Posted by ItalianYaris

so yeah, not to sound like an ass or anything. I know is only a game of badges, but seriously! Do you actually believe that this thing:

(SCION XD image here)

Is better looking than this?

(YARIS image here)

+10 ! IMO, the style of the Yaris is FAR superior to the Scion, the Fit, and a couple of other subcompact cars in the US. It just is! I get a lot of compliments on the way she looks.

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

this thread is worthless without tamago's scion input....

[PETERPOOP]

Please no.

[ItalianYaris]

Sorry friend, but that is so not a modified yaris, the red yaris is a stock yaris TS.

Originally Posted by Tamago

this will be my final post on yarisworld.

i love that you're comparing a bone stock xD to a modified yaris. very clever.

i can do the same!



vs



beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. the yaris looks cheap and out dated.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by Tamago

this will be my final post on yarisworld.

i love that you're comparing a bone stock xD to a modified yaris. very clever.

i can do the same!



vs



beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. the yaris looks cheap and out dated.

I would still rather have the Yaris!

I am not a fan of the latest series of "boxcars" (xD, Kia Soul or Nissan Cube), the look like delivery vans to me. The xA--although on the same platform as the Yaris--looks like a rollerskate.

"Cheap and outdated?" Dude, get a clue! Anyone who insults a car on its own forum is a real assclown! Goodbye, and good riddance

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by MadMax

I would still rather have the Yaris!

I am not a fan of the latest series of "boxcars" (xD, Kia Soul or Nissan Cube), the look like delivery vans to me. The xA--although on the same platform as the Yaris--looks like a rollerskate.

"Cheap and outdated?" Dude, get a clue! Anyone who insults a car on its own forum is a real assclown! Goodbye, and good riddance

Kia Soul isn't too bad, Nissan Cube looks nasty, xD looks best of the 3 imo. Prefer my Yaris, of course, but I could be pretty happy an a manual xD in the right color and with the upgraded Pioneer HU.

[tomato]

Originally Posted by MadMax

I would still rather have the Yaris!

I am not a fan of the latest series of "boxcars" .. the look like delivery vans to me.

I agree. The "boxy" look is kind of a turn off