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Old 05-18-2007, 12:45 AM   #19
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If the TSB say's 5w-20, use 5w-20. You guy's are willing to use 0w-20 in it's place because AMSoil doesn't have a 5w-20? Switch brands!!! Follow the CAR manufacturers recommendation, not the oils. I know it probably makes no difference, but neither does using AMSoil over Mobil 1. They are equally good, but one comes in the recommended weight.
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:37 AM   #20
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If the TSB say's 5w-20, use 5w-20. You guy's are willing to use 0w-20 in it's place because AMSoil doesn't have a 5w-20? Switch brands!!!
actually, im using the 0w-20 because of its added benefits. if i were to use mobil 1, which is very good oil i agree, i would also use their 0w-20. according to the mobil1 website:

"In addition to providing benefits for hybrid engines, Mobil 1 0W-20 is ideal for use in newer cars, trucks and SUVs manufactured by Honda, Toyota, Ford, Mercury and Chrysler, where a 5W-20 motor oil is recommended. Mobil 1 0W-20 not only meets the requirements of manufacturers recommending 5W-20, but it also provides superior low-temperature protection and the exceptional performance of a fully synthetic motor oil."

i misspoke, and saw that amsoil does indeed have a 5w-20, but their 0w-20 has much better test results and longer drain intervals. just trying to pamper my wifes car, since its a commuter car and the type of oil it gets is probably the only "modification" its ever going to see!! i am in NO way trying to peddle brands, i apologize if it sounded that way...

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Old 05-18-2007, 10:17 AM   #21
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...i misspoke, and saw that amsoil does indeed have a 5w-20...
Ok, I was under the impression that AMSoil did not come in a 5w-20. Also, for those looking to drop to the 5w-20 weight but don't use synthetic, Mobil makes a conventional 5w-20 oil called Clean 5000. I'm sure there are other brands as well.
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Old 05-18-2007, 11:03 AM   #22
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Found a list of TSB for the Yaris... I just can't look at them...

Unless someone has an ALLDATA login?

TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title
EL002-07 JAN 07 Charging System - Charge Warning Lamp ON
EL001-07 JAN 07 Electrical - Multiple Warning Lamps/Can't Shift A/T
PA001-07 JAN 07 Body - Replacement Bumper Cover Refinishing
BO023R-06 DEC 06 Restraints - Seat Belt Extenders
PG001R-06 NOV 06 Electrical - Battery Maintenance and Testing
PA002-06 NOV 06 Paint - Stains Under Rapgard (R)
SU007-06 OCT 06 Suspension - Shock Absorber Replacement Criteria
NV009-06 SEP 06 Body - Upper/Lower Windshield Ticking Noise
TC013-06 SEP 06 A/T - Reman Transmission Serial Number Locations
TC012-06 SEP 06 A/T - Serial Number Locations
EG035R-06 AUG 06 Exhaust System - Excessive Sulfur Odor
BO011-06 JUL 06 Interior - Park Brake Lever Boot Catches on Console
NV004-06 MAY 06 Interior - Front Seat Squeak Noise
BO017R-03 APR 06 Body - Interior Trim Panels/Garnish Loose
ST005R-01 APR 06 Steering - Vehicle Pulls To One Side Manual Supplement

MOST OF THOSE DO NOT APPLY TO US. but there are a few that does. namely a wiper cowl and nozzle replacement for those of us that feel it doesn't squrit fluid correctly.....
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Old 05-18-2007, 11:07 AM   #23
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I know a mechanic who has alldata. Perhaps I could get some info on the yaris this weekend? Anyone interested?
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:07 PM   #24
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:16 PM   #25
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Just ordered one gallon plus two quarts and an oil filter. Amsoil 0-20 100% synthetic and amsoil oil filter for the Yaris. This weight oil is a new product for them (amsoil.com) . ABout $25 a gallon and $6.25 a quart and $14 for the filter. Currently running Castrol full synthetic (not really 100% synthetic, though) Also ordered the Fujimoto drain valve. Will change all at 5,000 miles. Car only has <2,000 now.
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:03 PM   #26
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Howdy, I just bought a 2010 Yaris and the owner's manual says to use 5W-30. As the TSB was 3 years ago now, I'd have thought that they'd update the owner's guide. Should we be using the 5W-30 or 5W-20?
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:57 PM   #27
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If you're manual states 5w-30 and it has a newer publication date than the TSB, then you should follow your manual.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:25 PM   #28
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it doesnt seem like people here understand that the 1nzfe motor is NOT on the 0w20 list...it is on the 5w20 list. so from what i take on this tsb it is NOT ok to use 0w20 in the yaris.
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:05 PM   #29
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Hey all,

I don't post here regularly, but I wanted to share an email communication I had with a Toyota Customer Service representative regarding the EG018-06 bulletin. Below are both the email I sent and the email I received back. Looks like it is A-OK to use 5W-20 in the Yaris.


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Customer (Joshua Smith) 10/16/2009 08:42 PM

Greetings,

I have a question regarding the correct oil type to use in a 2007 Yaris Hatchback. Unless I'm mistaken, my car has a 1NZ-FE engine, which is listed in the Toyota Service Bulletin EG018-06 as an engine that can use 5W-20 oil. My oil cap and manual both say 5W-30 is recommended, but in the service bulletin, Toyota says that 5W-20 may be used -- and a direct quote from the service bulletin states the following: "This oil is superior in terms of fuel economy, engine protection, and cold starting performance." Please let me know if 5W-20 is safe to use, and if it is not, I'd like to know why. I'd prefer to use 5W-20 for the better fuel economy and cold weather starting performance, as my car sometimes hesitates to turn on when it's very cold out.

There are a lot of people who have discussed/debated the EG018-06 issue on online message boards and none of us can come up with a solid answer. I'd like to get an official response from Toyota and put this to rest. Please also include a list of which specific Yaris models/years (broken down by VIN# range or some similar method) this covers so I can give some people a definitive answer for their Yarises. Thanks very much in advance for your time and effort.

Regards,
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Response (RTou) 10/22/2009 08:00 AM

Dear Mr. Smith,

Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales.

We appreciate the opportunity to respond to your inquiry.

Toyota recommends the use of ILSAC multigrade, 5W-30 Toyota Genuine Motor Oil or equivalent for the 2007 Yaris. Toyota also recommends, due to its superiority in terms of fuel efficiency, engine protection, and cold starting performance, the use ILSAC GF-4 SAE 5W-20 engine oil for the 2007 Yaris (no specified VIN range).

Thank you again for contacting Toyota.

If we can answer any further questions, please feel free to http://www.toyota.com/help/contactus.html.

Renee Toussaint
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:30 PM   #30
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How long until people feel the need for 0W-0 oil? or even, -5w-0 oil?
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:14 PM   #31
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Newhavenpatriot,

Bless you for taking the time to post this and enlighten us! I contacted Toyota about the same via phone (as well as my dealer) and they had no idea what I was talking about. This is what I always felt was intended by the bulletin, but up until now have had no proof. I made the decision to use 20 wt anyway, but it's nice to know it's ok! Thanks again!

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Old 10-24-2009, 09:42 AM   #32
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How long until people feel the need for 0W-0 oil? or even, -5w-0 oil?
It won't end at 20wt, of that I am certain. I'm quite sure 0W-10 would work well in a lot of current engines out there-but it's not recommended or even obtainable very easily. Lubrication technology is evolving quickly right now-nano technology and biobased products to name a couple-and making thinner oils possible that increase efficiency and lower wear.

Your post above highlights the fact the SAE method of classifying oil viscosity is rediculous! It is antiquated and confusing to most-time for a revamp in my opinion. But yes thinner oils are coming!

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Old 10-24-2009, 04:06 PM   #33
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Well, when they get here I think that'll be the day I opt for a German sedan w/ a nice turbo diesel that won't want oil the consistency of kerosene in their expensive motor.
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Old 10-24-2009, 06:05 PM   #34
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I'm quite sure 0W-10 would work well in a lot of current engines out there-but it's not recommended or even obtainable very easily.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:11 PM   #35
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I just found out about the Redline 0W-10 the other day-Royal Purple makes some too. Last I found it though it was like $14 a quart shipped. How much does the Redline go for? Thanks!

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Old 10-24-2009, 10:59 PM   #36
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Hey R2. It goes for 12.95 a quart on their website before shipping. Interesting oil, not sure about engine longevity as it's application seems to be for racing engines It's possible one day 10 weights will be specified...
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