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11-20-2014, 01:50 PM | #73 |
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^ I believe that's right for the 175/65-15 . The Prius C is the same as the Honda Fit base and Yaris as you stated . Not a big selection for variety . ^
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12-08-2014, 02:31 PM | #74 |
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The RT43 T + H are a 1 ply sidewall . Not sure for the V .
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01-07-2015, 12:30 PM | #75 |
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New pair of all-seasons
I have never bought a dedicated summer tire, mainly as it doesn't seem cost effective in a rainy region. I usually go for the all-season workhorse type tire and yesterday bought 2 new Kelly Explorer Plus for the front axle on my Echo.
The tread is fairly deep and blocky (almost like a winter tire) which I'm hoping equates to good all-weather grip. Already they are a vast improvement from my previous pair which were on the car when I bought it, and broke free in the wet with the slightest press of the gas pedal. http://www.tirebuyer.com/tires/kelly...7#.VK1s7ZiDq1w |
01-07-2015, 11:40 PM | #76 |
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^^^ For your safety, always put new tyres on the rear... even on front wheel drive vehicles.
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01-08-2015, 08:01 PM | #77 |
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^^You don't work in a tire shop do you?
Thanks for the advice, but I respectfully decline. Yes, I am aware of this "rule" and yes, I have read and understand the reasoning behind this, however it seems to me that this is outdated thinking from the time of heavy, RWD cars. On another note, that form of thinking seems to imply that your tires should never be rotated, as at some point you will have two tires with deeper tread on the front axle, which apparently is unsafe. My rear tires still have plenty of tread also. Again, I appreciate the advice and understand the reasoning, but my personal preference is to have my grippier tires on the front axle. I needed better traction, and would not have gotten this better traction by leaving the offending tires on the front. Cheers! Last edited by adf_604; 01-08-2015 at 08:24 PM. Reason: editing |
01-08-2015, 08:57 PM | #78 |
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The logic is in case of a blow out, it's easier to correct the front as opposed to the rear.
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01-09-2015, 01:19 AM | #79 |
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In an emergency situation, you will have a better chance of controlling the car when the best rubber is on the rear... regardless rear or front wheel drive.
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01-09-2015, 08:35 AM | #80 |
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I don't know, but that is what I was taught.
Never had the problem, hope I never do. Norton |
01-09-2015, 11:31 AM | #81 | |
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It's just because it's the rear tires that do all the work stopping your car. Otherwise, you would lost control each time you brake and the rear locks up. Obviously it depends how you drive. Best is just rotate the tires and buy 4 new when they are finished, since tires do expire when they dry rot. |
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01-09-2015, 12:04 PM | #82 |
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The rear brakes do very little in stopping. They are anchors and not very efficient ones. As you apply brakes, inertia drives the weight into the front suspension which causes it to compress (front end dive). Ever ridden a bike or motorcycle? Your most efficient braking is with the front.
At the MSF and other bike courses you are taught to apply the rear only after applying the front to avoid the dreaded rear wheel slide. If you have any doubts; why do you think rear brakes are replaced so infrequently? Norton |
01-09-2015, 12:17 PM | #83 |
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additionally, when you brake you have some control over the direction of the front tires. not so of the back tires. if the tread is poorer back there it may cause the rear to slide out leading to an undesirable loss of control.
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01-09-2015, 04:08 PM | #84 |
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Where to Install New Pairs of Tires?
I found this on Tire Rack: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=52& |
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General Altimax RT43. $347 installed and for sure the best all season tire ive ever used in snow. I drove home on icy, snowy roads, some unplowed with 6+ inches still sitting on them. on the one stretch of dry pavement on the toll road, it was also clear that much of the road noise that no longer intrudes into the car was from the oem tires. for anyone looking for all season tires in the oem size for the 3rd gen yaris (175/65-15) id say the ratings this tire gets on tire rack are legit. |
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You must be near Ohio or Indiana. No toll roads in Michigan.
Snow up here, is not very deep, few inches at most. Norton |
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Yeah. This also applies if you must only get 2 winter tires. Winters should go in the rear. |
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01-10-2015, 10:27 PM | #90 |
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ROXY 1 , 2nd that on the RT43 on our base '13 FIT. We have the H-rated . The siping is different than that of the T . The sipes of the H are deeper on the outer side and get lesser toward the center of the tire . The opposite is for the T . Not sure which is better for grip , handling , etc. .
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