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cdydjded · 04-04-2007, 08:27 PM

Sorry for the delay I had my price list @ home. Yes Crowers are $747. I can get the pistons for $499 & rings for $105.00. Titanium rods are a waste of $ @ the power levels we are going to acheive. Doc: all aftermarket forged pistons are made from aluminum, rod options are steel, aluminum & titanium. Steel rods are more than enough. Yes there will be additional mass with new rods & pistons. But the additional strength of them outweigh the added weight.

ChinoCharles · 04-04-2007, 08:32 PM

OK, so around $1250 for a build. Thanks for finding out guys.

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 08:35 PM

chino don't forget bearings and machining costs, also too if you want to find a few more people interested like I said we can save a decent amount of money buying multiple sets.

ChinoCharles · 04-04-2007, 08:36 PM

I'm saying to get the bulk of the parts in your hands. Of course its never that easy.

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 08:49 PM

first your talking about your right hand being stronger then your left, now your talking about bulk in your hand... this conversation is going sour real quick....

wiseco has piston sets for 540 with rings and everything. and if we get 2-3 sets sold JE said we would get a discount as well.

ChinoCharles · 04-04-2007, 08:50 PM

ROFL!

What kind of pistons? Low comp?

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 08:54 PM

no JE said as long as they are sets for the same car then high compression and low compression are added as the same set. i.e. we are considered 2 sets.

ChinoCharles · 04-04-2007, 08:56 PM

So wait, JE sells the Wiseco pistons?

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 09:02 PM

no they are two different companies. Wiseco's are 540$ a set for either high compression or low compression, they also offer a discount when purchased in quantity.
JE's are about 500$ +105$ for the rings, They offer a decent discount after 3 sets are purchased. Either way whether you want high or low compression they are considered a set, and work towards the discount.

ChinoCharles · 04-04-2007, 09:06 PM

Which would you want?

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 09:16 PM

Both are good, Wiseco's come skirt coated, I have Wisecos in my 700hp 300zx build so do several other people I know. I think we couldn't go wrong with either one. Just to throw another wrench in there Arias makes pistons for 600$ or $650 if you want their upgraded wrist pin, they say you need them if pushing 20+ psi. All of them say they should take about 4 weeks, and I believe most of them have info already on the pistons so I wouldn't have to do too much work.
Most companies ask you to fill out a brief paper on your build you can get an idea by clicking here and going to custom piston order form. Click here or DIE!!!! hahaha

Doc Zaius · 04-04-2007, 09:34 PM

Wow... good stuff... interesting information, guys! I've read in a couple places that the offset crank of the 1NZ-FE engine doesn't help the rods hold together all that well under boost. If they actually do look like toothpicks, I can understand why!!

Nice that it doesn't matter to JE if you're ordering high or low comp pistons when considering a group buy.

But ya... for me... this is all research at least for the next year, possibly 2... need time to acquire capital and warranties to wear off!

I'm very interested... just not right now!!

ChinoCharles · 04-04-2007, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Zaius

But ya... for me... this is all research at least for the next year, possibly 2... need time to acquire capital and warranties to wear off!

I'm very interested... just not right now!!

I think that sentiment echoes 99% of the 1% of owners that are actually interested in doing anything like this, so you're good.

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 09:38 PM

warranties are overrated... if something breaks just fix it like I would... think about it 2 years from now your going to be like ehhh its just an old yaris....

turboyaris · 04-09-2007, 09:18 PM

I got all the parts for making the throttle body/ intake manifold. Hopefully I will get a chance to get to it this weekend. If I do I will be posting some pics. It won't be until the first week in may that I will be able to have it retuned and dynoed, but we will see. Anyone think of any other parts they want made? I am looking into the underpanels and will have a post on them soon. ANyone know of a price on them, so far I checked online and everywhere said ~$200.

turboyaris · 04-19-2007, 05:32 PM

hey guys wanna know what is messed up about our cars, the valves are tiny!!! haha so far Manley only makes blanks down to 5.5 mm so we would have to bore out the valve guide. A not difficult possibility. Ferrea has blanks to 4.97 however, they also cost twice as much as Manley components.

Doc Zaius · 04-19-2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turboyaris

hey guys wanna know what is messed up about our cars, the valves are tiny!!! haha so far Manley only makes blanks down to 5.5 mm so we would have to bore out the valve guide. A not difficult possibility. Ferrea has blanks to 4.97 however, they also cost twice as much as Manley components.

Are you talking about intake and exhaust valves? I'm a total n00b when it comes to actual engine stuff. How big are ours? Would this be to replace the current ones for strengthening purposes?

turboyaris · 04-19-2007, 05:57 PM

its the diameter of the stem of the valve the long straight part, ours are around 4.8. The main reason to upgrade the valve is yes ability to withstand higher heat, more pressure (under boost), it also can lighten the valvetrain and that coupled with springs and all can allow for a higher redline. and yes both exhaust and intake valve stems are around the 4.8mm mark.

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04-04-2007, 08:27 PM	#37
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	Sorry for the delay I had my price list @ home. Yes Crowers are $747. I can get the pistons for $499 & rings for $105.00. Titanium rods are a waste of $ @ the power levels we are going to acheive. Doc: all aftermarket forged pistons are made from aluminum, rod options are steel, aluminum & titanium. Steel rods are more than enough. Yes there will be additional mass with new rods & pistons. But the additional strength of them outweigh the added weight.

04-04-2007, 08:32 PM	#38
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	OK, so around $1250 for a build. Thanks for finding out guys.

04-04-2007, 08:35 PM	#39
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	chino don't forget bearings and machining costs, also too if you want to find a few more people interested like I said we can save a decent amount of money buying multiple sets.

04-04-2007, 08:36 PM	#40
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	I'm saying to get the bulk of the parts in your hands. Of course its never that easy.

04-04-2007, 08:49 PM	#41
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	first your talking about your right hand being stronger then your left, now your talking about bulk in your hand... this conversation is going sour real quick.... wiseco has piston sets for 540 with rings and everything. and if we get 2-3 sets sold JE said we would get a discount as well.

04-04-2007, 08:50 PM	#42
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	ROFL! What kind of pistons? Low comp?

04-04-2007, 08:54 PM	#43
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	no JE said as long as they are sets for the same car then high compression and low compression are added as the same set. i.e. we are considered 2 sets.

04-04-2007, 08:56 PM	#44
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	So wait, JE sells the Wiseco pistons?

04-04-2007, 09:02 PM	#45
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	no they are two different companies. Wiseco's are 540$ a set for either high compression or low compression, they also offer a discount when purchased in quantity. JE's are about 500$ +105$ for the rings, They offer a decent discount after 3 sets are purchased. Either way whether you want high or low compression they are considered a set, and work towards the discount.

04-04-2007, 09:06 PM	#46
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Which would you want?

04-04-2007, 09:16 PM	#47
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	Both are good, Wiseco's come skirt coated, I have Wisecos in my 700hp 300zx build so do several other people I know. I think we couldn't go wrong with either one. Just to throw another wrench in there Arias makes pistons for 600$ or $650 if you want their upgraded wrist pin, they say you need them if pushing 20+ psi. All of them say they should take about 4 weeks, and I believe most of them have info already on the pistons so I wouldn't have to do too much work. Most companies ask you to fill out a brief paper on your build you can get an idea by clicking here and going to custom piston order form. Click here or DIE!!!! hahaha

04-04-2007, 09:38 PM	#50
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	warranties are overrated... if something breaks just fix it like I would... think about it 2 years from now your going to be like ehhh its just an old yaris....

04-09-2007, 09:18 PM	#51
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	I got all the parts for making the throttle body/ intake manifold. Hopefully I will get a chance to get to it this weekend. If I do I will be posting some pics. It won't be until the first week in may that I will be able to have it retuned and dynoed, but we will see. Anyone think of any other parts they want made? I am looking into the underpanels and will have a post on them soon. ANyone know of a price on them, so far I checked online and everywhere said ~$200.

04-19-2007, 05:32 PM	#52
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	hey guys wanna know what is messed up about our cars, the valves are tiny!!! haha so far Manley only makes blanks down to 5.5 mm so we would have to bore out the valve guide. A not difficult possibility. Ferrea has blanks to 4.97 however, they also cost twice as much as Manley components.

04-19-2007, 05:57 PM	#54
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	its the diameter of the stem of the valve the long straight part, ours are around 4.8. The main reason to upgrade the valve is yes ability to withstand higher heat, more pressure (under boost), it also can lighten the valvetrain and that coupled with springs and all can allow for a higher redline. and yes both exhaust and intake valve stems are around the 4.8mm mark.