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JJ2Ymx · 11-13-2012, 02:29 AM

So I am looking for yaris hatchback... and they are only 2 choices (in san francisco at lease)

2011 yaris (2doors) hatchack with 23,816 miles on it for 14,000 before tax and license
or 2010 yaris (4door) hatchback with 33,242 on it for 14,000 before tax and license both have only 1 owner and are certified and both are LE I believe since they come with power windows and lock....

Please pleas please x_x I need some suggestions and comment about it and if I am paying too much for it ? I plan to buy the car the end of this month ....

Thanks so much

b20vteg · 11-13-2012, 02:42 AM

being that the asking price is the same for both cars, the one with the lower miles is a no brainer. however, $14k seems a bit high to me. but then again, i don't live in frisco so i don't rly know if that's a good price or not?

JJ2Ymx · 11-13-2012, 02:45 AM

does the 4 door are usually more expensive that 2 doors? (I know is a silly question but is my first car and I am assuming is more expensive because have more doors? lol )

TrYaris · 11-13-2012, 02:48 AM

I do not think I can help you, but I paid 12 000 (2 000 insurance) for a 2008 Yaris (4 doors) Hatchback with 60 000miles. It came with automatic windows and a distance starter, etc.. There was only one person who was driving and It was a rent. I think both are good offers, it remains only to take the one you prefer the most.

b20vteg · 11-13-2012, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ2Ymx

does the 4 door are usually more expensive that 2 doors? (I know is a silly question but is my first car and I am assuming is more expensive because have more doors? lol )

no lol. actually from what i've seen, it's quite the opposite. four doors in my area seems to have a lower asking price than the hatch.

JJ2Ymx · 11-13-2012, 03:00 AM

Hmmmm I think the lowest miles one is good but I am worry about 2 door car in long run O_o is not like I can add doors later lol xD

Jabro · 11-13-2012, 03:46 PM

If you plan on having multiple people in your car or kids in the foreseeable future, I'd say go with the four door. I drive a two door, and its great for me and three other friends. Then again, I'm 21 and shouldn't have to worry about getting a car seat in and out. I also agree with some of the other's that the price is a little high. Expect between 800-1000 for license, fees, and tax. I'd try to get the either car out the door for 14k at the most.

Altitude · 11-13-2012, 04:44 PM

14K sounds a little pricey for a used Yaris. I bought my 2008 new for 14.3 (power locks/windows/cold weather package.) Try to talk them down a little bit.

MadMax · 11-13-2012, 05:18 PM

I think prices in general are usually higher in SF, so it might not be a bad price.

If you need the extra doors, then definitely get them but if you've got a choice than the two-door seems like the better deal. Be aware that the car is the same length, it's just that on the four-door hatch the front doors are shortened to add two more to the back. There is no added length.

Both will most likely be solid cars, Toyota scored a hit with this one and while it might not be overly popular in the States, I see the Yaris all over the globe in my travels!

Cheers! M2

JJ2Ymx · 11-13-2012, 06:52 PM

Thanks everyone for the fast reply ... I think I will just get the 2 doors one cos has lower miles....and according to the dealer the price is set ... >.< now just wait for my paycheck so I can get it xD

The only thing I will do to that car is just the antenna I guess any suggestion for shark antenna for 2011 yaris? I google and they are only 2009 ones... does anyone install one before ? is hard?

Thanks so much in advance again =3

Absolutely Red 12 · 11-13-2012, 08:42 PM

Oh COMON!!! The dealer is full of shit, when he says the price is set!!
Offer $12,800.00, if he gives you crap, turn around and let him watch you walk.
There's nothing more humiliating to a used car sales guy than watching a sale walk away.

There are HUNDREDS of others out there.

I told you in the other post, you go in NEEDING a car, they smell blood!!

If you need the dealer to finance, then negotiate as cash, then when all is set, tell him youre going to the bank to get financed.
The price is now locked, and they jump through hoops to finance you.

Better yet:

Buy this one: http://www.microimageonline.com/foru...LOW-COLOR-RARE

He just lowered the price to mid 12Ks OBO
Offer him 12K even, take the Surfliner train to LA, and drive back to SF in your new yellow Yaris!!

A fellow member, and we know he has taken care of this bad boy.

nookandcrannycar · 11-13-2012, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ2Ymx

So I am looking for yaris hatchback... and they are only 2 choices (in san francisco at lease)

2011 yaris (2doors) hatchack with 23,816 miles on it for 14,000 before tax and license
or 2010 yaris (4door) hatchback with 33,242 on it for 14,000 before tax and license both have only 1 owner and are certified and both are LE I believe since they come with power windows and lock....

Please pleas please x_x I need some suggestions and comment about it and if I am paying too much for it ? I plan to buy the car the end of this month ....

Thanks so much

I moved to Texas in August of 2008, but I'm a Bay Area native and lived over 85% of my life there before moving (and have spent 6 months there since moving to Texas). Prices for both of the cars you listed are way too high. Look at the Kelley Blue Book website (kbb.com). Kelley Blue Book divides the price into 'Private Party' and 'Trade-In' categories. Private Party Excellent Condition is the highest price they list and the highest price is known in the car business as 'Retail Book'. If a dealer insists on a price above retail book in order to make a deal, walk away. The Kelley Blue Book website allows you to plug in a zip code to make the price zip code specific. I used the only San Francisco zip code I could think of off the top of my head (94123), and used the specific mileage you quoted for each car. I assumed an automatic transmission for each car. The highest price (private party, excellent condition) for the 2011 2 door hatchback for 94123 zip code is $11,404 and the highest price for the 2010 4 door hatchback for 94123 zip code is $11,410 dollars.

I would buy a new Yaris. Yarisworld member Absolutely Red 12 paid $15,840 out the door (final cost) in the Los Angeles area for his 2012 Base L 5 speed (he posted this on another thread). The 2012 and 2013 base models have a few of the previously optional features as standard equipment. I have driven my 5 speed manual Yaris all over San Francisco with no problem. The 2013 base model is, I believe, $255 more than the 2012.....and according to the website I just looked at the sales tax is currently 1/4% higher in L.A. (1/4 % on $15,000 is only $37.50). You will pay at least $15,351 including Tax and License for either of the 2010 or the 2011 you quoted. If you take Absolutely Red 12's final $15,840, add $255 for the 2013 price increase and add the extra Tax and License (for that extra $255) of $24.61 and then subtract $37.50 for the 1/4% tax difference between S.F and L.A. (per the website I found) that brings the total for a 2013 L 5speed 2 door hatch to $16,082.11 ----- only 731.11 more than the cars you are looking at and you get a brand new 2013 with likely under 100 miles on it. You can add the power window feature for a low price by following instructions on Yarisworld.. A dealer in California sold Absolutely Red 12 his car for that price, so some dealer will sell you a base 2013 for an out the door price of 16,082.11 (round it to 16,080 to make it easier). If a nearby dealer won't do it, look at inventory (on the internet) in Stockton, Fairfield, Merced, Sacramento, etc.....get a commitment for that amount...then add in the cost for a friend to drive with you to that location....add that on to the $16,080...and go back to the local dealer and tell them what you found and you'll add the cost of going out to that dealer and add that to your offer to them instead. I can't imagine that the closer dealer would say no. If they do, just go to the other dealer who agreed to the $16,080.

You didn't mention financing, so I didn't assume any. If you have to finance, pretend you are paying cash until you get an out the door price...then use your own financing (or theirs IF it is cheaper). DO NOT reveal you are not paying cash until after you get an out the door price. Tell them you changed your mind (it is none of their business why).

As you look, if you are finding 2012 inventory and not any 2013, there is no reason to pay any more than $15,802.50 out the door (the $15,840 Absolutely Red 12 paid minus the approximate tax difference of $37.50)....and that would be only approximately 451.50 more than the used cars you quoted in your post.

Good Luck!

Absolutely Red 12 · 11-13-2012, 09:00 PM

Here are two 2012 3 door L models for $15780 at Marin Toyota.
A Red and a White one.
You can walk away paying $16K even out the door, since they are autos, who would want a 5 speed in SF!!
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...erivedpriceASC

Absolutely Red 12 · 11-13-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

I moved to Texas in August of 2008, but I'm a Bay Area native and lived over 85% of my life there before moving (and have spent 6 months there since moving to Texas). Prices for both of the cars you listed are way too high. Look at the Kelley Blue Book website (kbb.com). Kelley Blue Book divides the price into 'Private Party' and 'Trade-In' categories. Private Party Excellent Condition is the highest price they list and the highest price is known in the car business as 'Retail Book'. If a dealer insists on a price above retail book in order to make a deal, walk away. The Kelley Blue Book website allows you to plug in a zip code to make the price zip code specific. I used the only San Francisco zip code I could think of off the top of my head (94123), and used the specific mileage you quoted for each car. I assumed an automatic transmission for each car. The highest price (private party, excellent condition) for the 2011 2 door hatchback for 94123 zip code is $11,404 and the highest price for the 2010 4 door hatchback for 94123 zip code is $11,410 dollars.

I would buy a new Yaris. Yarisworld member Absolutely Red 12 paid $15,840 out the door (final cost) in the Los Angeles area for his 2012 Base L 5 speed (he posted this on another thread). The 2012 and 2013 base models have a few of the previously optional features as standard equipment. I have driven my 5 speed manual Yaris all over San Francisco with no problem. The 2013 base model is, I believe, $255 more than the 2012.....and according to the website I just looked at the sales tax is currently 1/4% higher in L.A. (1/4 % on $15,000 is only $37.50). You will pay at least $15,351 including Tax and License for either of the 2010 or the 2011 you quoted. If you take Absolutely Red 12's final $15,840, add $255 for the 2013 price increase and add the extra Tax and License (for that extra $255) of $24.61 and then subtract $37.50 for the 1/4% tax difference between S.F and L.A. (per the website I found) that brings the total for a 2013 L 5speed 2 door hatch to $16,082.11 ----- only 731.11 more than the cars you are looking at and you get a brand new 2013 with likely under 100 miles on it. You can add the power window feature for a low price by following instructions on Yarisworld.. A dealer in California sold Absolutely Red 12 his car for that price, so some dealer will sell you a base 2013 for an out the door price of 16,082.11 (round it to 16,080 to make it easier). If a nearby dealer won't do it, look at inventory (on the internet) in Stockton, Fairfield, Merced, Sacramento, etc.....get a commitment for that amount...then add in the cost for a friend to drive with you to that location....add that on to the $16,080...and go back to the local dealer and tell them what you found and you'll add the cost of going out to that dealer and add that to your offer to them instead. I can't imagine that the closer dealer would say no. If they do, just go to the other dealer who agreed to the $16,080.

You didn't mention financing, so I didn't assume any. If you have to finance, pretend you are paying cash until you get an out the door price...then use your own financing (or theirs IF it is cheaper). DO NOT reveal you are not paying cash until after you get an out the door price. Tell them you changed your mind (it is none of their business why).

As you look, if you are finding 2012 inventory and not any 2013, there is no reason to pay any more than $15,802.50 out the door (the $15,840 Absolutely Red 12 paid minus the approximate tax difference of $37.50)....and that would be only approximately 451.50 more than the used cars you quoted in your post.

Good Luck!

Yeah baby!!

nookandcrannycar · 11-13-2012, 09:09 PM

Tooo Funny !!!! I was typing my post on and off and hadn't looked at the thread since MadMax's post....didn't see A.R 12's post until I posted mine.....I was soft pedaling it because I felt if I was too hardcore you might think what I was writing would be impossible. Don't give up---THEY ARE RIPPING YOU OFF ( SEE THE NUMBERS ON MY PREVIOUS POST) AND PAY ATTENTION TO ABSOLUTELY RED 12 AS WELL....

. The only reason to allow yourself to get ripped off is if you have no down payment and crappy credit. If you have no credit (but pay stubs -- as you do) DON'T FALL INTO THIS TRAP!

nookandcrannycar · 11-13-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Absolutely Red 12

Yeah baby!!

nookandcrannycar · 11-13-2012, 09:27 PM

I just now noticed that you are the same OP as on the other thread I mentioned. Why did you start two threads?

MadMax · 11-13-2012, 09:35 PM

2010 Toyota Yaris 4D Hatchback ONLY 22,000 Miles!

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/ctd/3367600015.html

CLEAN TITLE CARFAX.
RUNS&LOOKS GREAT!
10/16/2012 - 22,108 - Maintenance inspection completed at Toyota Sunnyvale
VIN: JTDKT4K3XA5284823
Mileage: 22000 Body Style: Hatchback
Exterior Color: White Interior Color: Dark Grey
Fuel: Gasoline Engine: 1,5l 4-cyl.
Transmission: 4 Speed Automatic Transmission
Doors: 5 Power Package: ALL POWER!.
Standard Equipment: Audio Prep Package with 4 Speakers Center High-Mount Stop Lamp CFC-Free Air Conditioning Child Protector Rear Door Locks
MPG: City 29/Hwy 35 Country of Assembly: Japan
PRICE - $9998

11-13-2012, 02:29 AM	#1
JJ2Ymx Drives: Toyota Yaris 2012 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: San Francisco Posts: 11	Need help and suggestion about buying a certified pre-owned Yaris... So I am looking for yaris hatchback... and they are only 2 choices (in san francisco at lease) 2011 yaris (2doors) hatchack with 23,816 miles on it for 14,000 before tax and license or 2010 yaris (4door) hatchback with 33,242 on it for 14,000 before tax and license both have only 1 owner and are certified and both are LE I believe since they come with power windows and lock.... Please pleas please x_x I need some suggestions and comment about it and if I am paying too much for it ? I plan to buy the car the end of this month .... Thanks so much

11-13-2012, 02:42 AM	#2
b20vteg no show, no go :( Drives: 2012 yaris 3dr hb Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: maricopa, az Posts: 369	being that the asking price is the same for both cars, the one with the lower miles is a no brainer. however, $14k seems a bit high to me. but then again, i don't live in frisco so i don't rly know if that's a good price or not? __________________

11-13-2012, 05:18 PM	#9
MadMax Drives: 2008 Yaris Liftback (Sprocket) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas! Posts: 2,799	I think prices in general are usually higher in SF, so it might not be a bad price. If you need the extra doors, then definitely get them but if you've got a choice than the two-door seems like the better deal. Be aware that the car is the same length, it's just that on the four-door hatch the front doors are shortened to add two more to the back. There is no added length. Both will most likely be solid cars, Toyota scored a hit with this one and while it might not be overly popular in the States, I see the Yaris all over the globe in my travels! Cheers! M2 __________________

11-13-2012, 08:42 PM	#11
Absolutely Red 12 Asshole Drives: 2012 and 2013! Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Your moms house. Posts: 392	Oh COMON!!! The dealer is full of shit, when he says the price is set!! Offer $12,800.00, if he gives you crap, turn around and let him watch you walk. There's nothing more humiliating to a used car sales guy than watching a sale walk away. There are HUNDREDS of others out there. I told you in the other post, you go in NEEDING a car, they smell blood!! If you need the dealer to finance, then negotiate as cash, then when all is set, tell him youre going to the bank to get financed. The price is now locked, and they jump through hoops to finance you. Better yet: Buy this one: http://www.microimageonline.com/foru...LOW-COLOR-RARE He just lowered the price to mid 12Ks OBO Offer him 12K even, take the Surfliner train to LA, and drive back to SF in your new yellow Yaris!! A fellow member, and we know he has taken care of this bad boy. __________________ Cheapest DD I could find!! Last edited by Absolutely Red 12; 11-13-2012 at 09:09 PM.

11-13-2012, 09:00 PM	#13
Absolutely Red 12 Asshole Drives: 2012 and 2013! Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Your moms house. Posts: 392	Here are two 2012 3 door L models for $15780 at Marin Toyota. A Red and a White one. You can walk away paying $16K even out the door, since they are autos, who would want a 5 speed in SF!! http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...erivedpriceASC __________________ Cheapest DD I could find!!

11-13-2012, 02:45 AM	#3
JJ2Ymx Drives: Toyota Yaris 2012 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: San Francisco Posts: 11	does the 4 door are usually more expensive that 2 doors? (I know is a silly question but is my first car and I am assuming is more expensive because have more doors? lol )

11-13-2012, 02:48 AM	#4
TrYaris Drives: Racin' yaris :D Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Trois-Rivières, Qc Posts: 86	I do not think I can help you, but I paid 12 000 (2 000 insurance) for a 2008 Yaris (4 doors) Hatchback with 60 000miles. It came with automatic windows and a distance starter, etc.. There was only one person who was driving and It was a rent. I think both are good offers, it remains only to take the one you prefer the most.

11-13-2012, 03:00 AM	#6
JJ2Ymx Drives: Toyota Yaris 2012 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: San Francisco Posts: 11	Hmmmm I think the lowest miles one is good but I am worry about 2 door car in long run O_o is not like I can add doors later lol xD

11-13-2012, 03:46 PM	#7
Jabro Drives: 2008 2dr Yaris Liftback Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: New Orleans Posts: 77	If you plan on having multiple people in your car or kids in the foreseeable future, I'd say go with the four door. I drive a two door, and its great for me and three other friends. Then again, I'm 21 and shouldn't have to worry about getting a car seat in and out. I also agree with some of the other's that the price is a little high. Expect between 800-1000 for license, fees, and tax. I'd try to get the either car out the door for 14k at the most.

11-13-2012, 04:44 PM	#8
Altitude Drives: '08 LB MT Bayou Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,671	14K sounds a little pricey for a used Yaris. I bought my 2008 new for 14.3 (power locks/windows/cold weather package.) Try to talk them down a little bit.

11-13-2012, 06:52 PM	#10
JJ2Ymx Drives: Toyota Yaris 2012 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: San Francisco Posts: 11	Thanks everyone for the fast reply ... I think I will just get the 2 doors one cos has lower miles....and according to the dealer the price is set ... >.< now just wait for my paycheck so I can get it xD The only thing I will do to that car is just the antenna I guess any suggestion for shark antenna for 2011 yaris? I google and they are only 2009 ones... does anyone install one before ? is hard? Thanks so much in advance again =3

11-13-2012, 09:09 PM	#15
nookandcrannycar Drives: 2('14+'07)MT 3d ,wHandCrWndws! Join Date: May 2009 Location: S.MontgomeryCnty,TX(HoustonMSA) '07=BayouBlue=300,125miles=OrigOwnr '14=ClassicSilvr=29,059miles Posts: 4,839	Tooo Funny !!!! I was typing my post on and off and hadn't looked at the thread since MadMax's post....didn't see A.R 12's post until I posted mine.....I was soft pedaling it because I felt if I was too hardcore you might think what I was writing would be impossible. Don't give up---THEY ARE RIPPING YOU OFF ( SEE THE NUMBERS ON MY PREVIOUS POST) AND PAY ATTENTION TO ABSOLUTELY RED 12 AS WELL..... The only reason to allow yourself to get ripped off is if you have no down payment and crappy credit. If you have no credit (but pay stubs -- as you do) DON'T FALL INTO THIS TRAP!

11-13-2012, 09:27 PM	#17
nookandcrannycar Drives: 2('14+'07)MT 3d ,wHandCrWndws! Join Date: May 2009 Location: S.MontgomeryCnty,TX(HoustonMSA) '07=BayouBlue=300,125miles=OrigOwnr '14=ClassicSilvr=29,059miles Posts: 4,839	I just now noticed that you are the same OP as on the other thread I mentioned. Why did you start two threads?

11-13-2012, 09:35 PM	#18
MadMax Drives: 2008 Yaris Liftback (Sprocket) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas! Posts: 2,799	2010 Toyota Yaris 4D Hatchback ONLY 22,000 Miles! http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/ctd/3367600015.html CLEAN TITLE CARFAX. RUNS&LOOKS GREAT! 10/16/2012 - 22,108 - Maintenance inspection completed at Toyota Sunnyvale VIN: JTDKT4K3XA5284823 Mileage: 22000 Body Style: Hatchback Exterior Color: White Interior Color: Dark Grey Fuel: Gasoline Engine: 1,5l 4-cyl. Transmission: 4 Speed Automatic Transmission Doors: 5 Power Package: ALL POWER!. Standard Equipment: Audio Prep Package with 4 Speakers Center High-Mount Stop Lamp CFC-Free Air Conditioning Child Protector Rear Door Locks MPG: City 29/Hwy 35 Country of Assembly: Japan PRICE - $9998 __________________