Best tire among these? - Toyota Yaris Forums

Cat · 04-02-2011, 01:29 AM

I need to change my 2007 stock Yaris tires (185/60/15) and after shopping for tires in my area, there are 4 kind of tires that seem to be good choices and meet my budget. What would be the better choice between these :

- Yokohama Avid Touring-S
- Yokohama Avid TRZ
- Kumho Solus KR21
- Pirelli P4

dingbat · 04-02-2011, 09:45 AM

I've recently run the Yoko Avid touring on my wife's car and my little pickup. Nice tire, no issues.

I recall belt separation being an issue across the board with Pirelli when I worked in tire shop years ago. That was in the mid '90s. Things may have changed since.

thepartsmancometh · 04-02-2011, 10:54 AM

hey there,
I work in the parts dept at a Ford/Toyota dealership and I'm the person people usually come to with tire questions. From my experience, the Touring-s is a good match for this car; inexpensive, good mileage, good quality. Overall, yokohama is a pretty good company, we really don't ever see many issues with them (unless caused by external factors). We have probably put at least 150-200 sets of these on various cars in the last 3-4 years with good luck. go for the Touring!

Avid TRZ's are good tires as well, but I think the touring-s is the best bang for the buck. I've seen TRZ's have a few wear issues if not perfectly rotated on schedule, etc. (also, an 80,000 mile tire is marketing hype mostly. most people drive in such a manner as to prevent this mileage being reached).

STAY AWAY from the Pirellis. I have never seen a set on a yaris, but there are a million ford focuses with them. Havent seen the bext luck out of those.

no comment on Kumho....I know people that love them, but Ive never had a set personally and we don't deal with them much (not many Kumhos are recognized by OEM Ford/Toyota)

nemelek · 04-02-2011, 11:22 AM

It's great to have a parts man on our side.

swidd · 04-02-2011, 11:24 AM

What bout Hankook H727?

Cat · 04-02-2011, 12:35 PM

Hankook H727 was one of my choices at first, but they cost 120$ more than the others. Since I have a budget to respected, Hankook's are not a choice anymore...

*kimona* · 04-02-2011, 01:15 PM

If you're considering Yokohama tyres, I would look at the Yokohama AVID ENVigor in a 195/60/15.

Some information on the tyre: http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=false&cs=195

Hershey · 04-02-2011, 02:04 PM

Someone we know has the AVID TRZ for his 2010 3 door . He uses it for his business and has put over 30,000 miles on them . He told us he's very impressed with them .

thepartsmancometh · 04-02-2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimona

If you're considering Yokohama tyres, I would look at the Yokohama AVID ENVigor in a 195/60/15.

envigors are a GREAT tire (much better than the H4S they are phasing out). We have put at least 50 sets of these on in varying fitments and everyone seems pleased. The sole caveat is the increased speed rating. keep in mind there may be a slight ride differences due to this.

Personally, both my personal cars (08 yaris lb, 07 wrx) currently have W rated tires so its no big deal for me, but some customers complain if you uprate the speed rating and the ride is harsher.

RedRide · 04-02-2011, 10:51 PM

I've had the "Yokohama Avid TRZ" for about a year now and I'm happy with them.
They have been more than adequate in all kinds of NY weather/roads and have pretty good dry pavement grip.
They are a godd AS tire

I have absolutly no regrets about getting them.

SailDesign · 04-03-2011, 04:39 PM

One thing I would add, having no experience with any of the tires listed but LOTS of experience with Life, and tires, etc. Do NOT go for the cheapest tires regardless, ever. I know these ^^^ tires are well-received (except the Pirellis) but please always check to see how much it would cost you if the tires are crap. If your deductible is $500, then don't bitch about a $200 more expensive set if it is the right tire for the job. It will probably work out cheaper in the end.

SeriousBlack · 04-03-2011, 04:58 PM

Hallelujah!

RedRide · 04-03-2011, 10:34 PM

On the other hand, don't think the most expensive tire is always the best.

For example, a brand like Michelin may be very good but, they are way over priced judging by my experience with them.

*kimona* · 04-03-2011, 10:41 PM

Good point. Just because it's more expensive doesn't necessarily mean it's a better tyre.

SeriousBlack · 04-04-2011, 02:03 AM

True on the money thing, but I'd add that if you live in a place where there's a good chance you'll get snow in the winter, get winters. That's a much better way to spend your money than on jacked insurance premiums when your rock hard Ultra HP "all seasons" slide you into an oncoming lane or a ditch. There's just no "perfect" tire out there for all weather conditions - no matter what the manufacturers claim.

Besides, having a set of winters lets you get sweet summer performance shoes without the crappy ice/snow sipes

SailDesign · 04-04-2011, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimona

Good point. Just because it's more expensive doesn't necessarily mean it's a better tyre.

Truth!

MUSKOKA800 · 04-04-2011, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat

Hankook H727 was one of my choices at first, but they cost 120$ more than the others. Since I have a budget to respected, Hankook's are not a choice anymore...

Isn't the H727 the new Four Season tire? If so, what extra you spend now will be easily recouped when you don't need winter boots plus steelies come next fall.

Cat · 04-04-2011, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MUSKOKA800

Isn't the H727 the new Four Season tire? If so, what extra you spend now will be easily recouped when you don't need winter boots plus steelies come next fall.

I already have winter tires (with the winters we have in Quebec, winter tires are a must, plus they are now mandatory), so the new tires won't be used during winter.

04-02-2011, 01:29 AM	#1
Cat Drives: 2007 Yaris RS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Trois-Rivières, Québec Posts: 3	Best tire among these? I need to change my 2007 stock Yaris tires (185/60/15) and after shopping for tires in my area, there are 4 kind of tires that seem to be good choices and meet my budget. What would be the better choice between these : - Yokohama Avid Touring-S - Yokohama Avid TRZ - Kumho Solus KR21 - Pirelli P4

04-02-2011, 11:22 AM	#4
nemelek DWEED Drives: 3DR 2008 Metorite Metalic Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,161	It's great to have a parts man on our side. __________________ Making a decision without following it with an action is still a fantasy.

04-02-2011, 10:51 PM	#10
RedRide Drives: '09 Yaris carmine red 2d HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 1,502	I've had the "Yokohama Avid TRZ" for about a year now and I'm happy with them. They have been more than adequate in all kinds of NY weather/roads and have pretty good dry pavement grip. They are a godd AS tire I have absolutly no regrets about getting them. Last edited by RedRide; 04-03-2011 at 01:56 PM.

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04-02-2011, 09:45 AM	#2
dingbat Drives: '10 3D Liftback Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Mid-Turn (probably late apexing) Posts: 66	I've recently run the Yoko Avid touring on my wife's car and my little pickup. Nice tire, no issues. I recall belt separation being an issue across the board with Pirelli when I worked in tire shop years ago. That was in the mid '90s. Things may have changed since.

04-02-2011, 10:54 AM	#3
thepartsmancometh Drives: '08 LB, '07 WRX Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: midwest Posts: 187	hey there, I work in the parts dept at a Ford/Toyota dealership and I'm the person people usually come to with tire questions. From my experience, the Touring-s is a good match for this car; inexpensive, good mileage, good quality. Overall, yokohama is a pretty good company, we really don't ever see many issues with them (unless caused by external factors). We have probably put at least 150-200 sets of these on various cars in the last 3-4 years with good luck. go for the Touring! Avid TRZ's are good tires as well, but I think the touring-s is the best bang for the buck. I've seen TRZ's have a few wear issues if not perfectly rotated on schedule, etc. (also, an 80,000 mile tire is marketing hype mostly. most people drive in such a manner as to prevent this mileage being reached). STAY AWAY from the Pirellis. I have never seen a set on a yaris, but there are a million ford focuses with them. Havent seen the bext luck out of those. no comment on Kumho....I know people that love them, but Ive never had a set personally and we don't deal with them much (not many Kumhos are recognized by OEM Ford/Toyota)

04-02-2011, 11:24 AM	#5
swidd Drives: Yaris HB Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Central Alabama, GOD BLESS AMERICA Posts: 755	What bout Hankook H727?

04-02-2011, 12:35 PM	#6
Cat Drives: 2007 Yaris RS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Trois-Rivières, Québec Posts: 3	Hankook H727 was one of my choices at first, but they cost 120$ more than the others. Since I have a budget to respected, Hankook's are not a choice anymore...

04-02-2011, 01:15 PM	#7
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	If you're considering Yokohama tyres, I would look at the Yokohama AVID ENVigor in a 195/60/15. Some information on the tyre: http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...w=false&cs=195

04-02-2011, 02:04 PM	#8
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Someone we know has the AVID TRZ for his 2010 3 door . He uses it for his business and has put over 30,000 miles on them . He told us he's very impressed with them .

04-03-2011, 04:39 PM	#11
SailDesign Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,931	One thing I would add, having no experience with any of the tires listed but LOTS of experience with Life, and tires, etc. Do NOT go for the cheapest tires regardless, ever. I know these ^^^ tires are well-received (except the Pirellis) but please always check to see how much it would cost you if the tires are crap. If your deductible is $500, then don't bitch about a $200 more expensive set if it is the right tire for the job. It will probably work out cheaper in the end.

04-03-2011, 04:58 PM	#12
SeriousBlack View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris RS HB Join Date: May 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 118	Hallelujah!

04-03-2011, 10:34 PM	#13
RedRide Drives: '09 Yaris carmine red 2d HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 1,502	On the other hand, don't think the most expensive tire is always the best. For example, a brand like Michelin may be very good but, they are way over priced judging by my experience with them.

04-03-2011, 10:41 PM	#14
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	Good point. Just because it's more expensive doesn't necessarily mean it's a better tyre.

04-04-2011, 02:03 AM	#15
SeriousBlack View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris RS HB Join Date: May 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 118	True on the money thing, but I'd add that if you live in a place where there's a good chance you'll get snow in the winter, get winters. That's a much better way to spend your money than on jacked insurance premiums when your rock hard Ultra HP "all seasons" slide you into an oncoming lane or a ditch. There's just no "perfect" tire out there for all weather conditions - no matter what the manufacturers claim. Besides, having a set of winters lets you get sweet summer performance shoes without the crappy ice/snow sipes