D4D Diesel for USA? - Toyota Yaris Forums

birdman · 10-24-2010, 07:15 PM

With the arrival of clean diesel engines in VW's and Audi's here in the US has anyone heard anything about Toyota bringing their line of D4D clean diesels too?

severous01 · 10-24-2010, 08:06 PM

hah.....yea right. with all the noisey and smelly diesel trucks out there...americans seem to think that all diesels are noisy and dirty. but, bmw has a 335d that's amazing. 30mpg on highway and pushing 435tq and 250 hp. not bad seeing as how it's very nice, powerful, efficient, quiet, and not much more expensive than a 335i. your fuel cost per year is about 1000 less than that of a gas car. and it makes more torque...not as much hp though...and doesnt come near the rpm of a gas car. but then again...with the torque, who needs rpm? and that's part of reliability of the engine as well.

PaddyMac · 10-24-2010, 09:54 PM

Hope and dream one can hope and dream.

henry33 · 10-25-2010, 03:53 AM

its all depend on the demand if the customers force toyota to import D4D to usa it will do so . but I do not think that for Yaris has diesel some special meaning since it is efficient also with petrol engine ;) for big cars it is the best option have driven the V10 diesel from VW man that was something :D

birdman · 10-25-2010, 04:08 AM

That's the beauty of clean diesel it doesn't have that awful smell like the old technology and current American made ones. Plus you can burn bio fuel and help our farmers stay afloat. Bio diesel exhaust smells like french fries and is a whole lot easier on the environment than gasoline.

birdman · 10-25-2010, 04:15 AM

The Yaris with the D4D gets up to 84 mpg. They are sold in many markets especially where fuel is so costly and environmental respect is valued highly.

firemachine69 · 10-25-2010, 04:36 AM

The average consumer will never accept having 6K of emission-control stuff hanging off a 13K car.

/end thread

henry33 · 10-25-2010, 05:24 AM

what 6K for what ?

Tamago · 10-25-2010, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firemachine69

The average consumer will never accept having 6K of emission-control stuff hanging off a 13K car.

/end thread

what he means is, no one will justify spending 20K on a car that's not worth it. apparently a Prius IS WORTH IT?

the average consumer is dumber than a bag of hammers, and could be sold anything if toyota marketed it to them with proper subliminal advertising, or just have a few a-list celebs get on the bandwagon, then all of america would me-too themselves into the D-4D

i've toyed with the idea of importing the engine..

Black Yaris · 10-25-2010, 09:39 PM

big oil will prevent large # of diesel engines in the US

severous01 · 10-25-2010, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

big oil will prevent large # of diesel engines in the US

agreed. but, i'm seriously wanting the ford 3.0td ranger, the 3.0td tacoma, and the 3.5td mitsubishi truck....but i'm glad jeep finally decided to introduce their 3.0td into the us. it should be something to start with...hopefully chrystler didnt screw it up and it's actually a reliable 'dodge' lol. they never should have gotten rid of the I-6

why? · 10-26-2010, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman

That's the beauty of clean diesel it doesn't have that awful smell like the old technology and current American made ones. Plus you can burn bio fuel and help our farmers stay afloat. Bio diesel exhaust smells like french fries and is a whole lot easier on the environment than gasoline.

um the American farmer needs no help staying afloat, however many millions of foreigners who depend on american grown grain would love to have their food source back to the prices it use to be before it became more profitable to waste it on fuel that is less efficient and more expensive than gasoline.

Now if you convert it to use waste fryolater oil, that is a good thing for everyone.

jstantherprsn · 10-26-2010, 11:34 AM

Thats a policy issue. The reason a huge chunk of the world is dependent upon us corn is because it is highly subsidized by the gov. We say we are for free trade but we are cheating by subsidizing it. We make it so cheap we put other farmers out of biz and they become dependent upon imports. So when fuel prices go up they starve because we destroyed their local market. Corn is subsidized so much, its in the majority of foods in the grocery store. Watch fuel and you'll get a good sense about biodiesel.

It also doesn't help trying to get the engine passed in every state. When you see that huge outlay of funds. You go f it let them use gas, they'll buy it if they want to move.

why? · 10-27-2010, 12:04 AM

There is definitely some subsidies for grain and corn as food, and that is wrong, but the subsidies for corn for ethanol is something like 10 times that.

And I also agree on the state to state thing. While I believe states need to take back almost all the power the government has stolen from them, they need to use their brains and cooperate on things that make sense like that, and on using 1 type of gas, not 98.

The US will get diesel cars eventually. As long as they are not absurdly more expensive than gas engines they will sell.

birdman · 01-16-2011, 07:18 PM

Ethanol corn is grown with petroleum fertilizers which is part of the reason big oil is forcing the US government to subsidize its being grown. Corn ethanol already has a substantial carbon footprint even before it is used. So does non organic bio diesel.

severous01 · 01-16-2011, 07:55 PM

how about algae? seems pretty profitable to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel

swidd · 01-16-2011, 10:59 PM

So for real, could I sink an imported diesel engine into my American Yaris, and start rolling with diesel?

bronsin · 01-17-2011, 06:41 PM

What would the diesel option cost?

10-24-2010, 07:15 PM	#1
birdman Drives: '08 Blazing Blue Yaris LB Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Posts: 496	D4D Diesel for USA? With the arrival of clean diesel engines in VW's and Audi's here in the US has anyone heard anything about Toyota bringing their line of D4D clean diesels too?

10-24-2010, 09:54 PM	#3
PaddyMac View User's Garage Drives: 09 Yaris Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tucson Posts: 28	hope and dream Hope and dream one can hope and dream.

10-25-2010, 09:39 PM	#10
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	big oil will prevent large # of diesel engines in the US __________________

10-27-2010, 12:04 AM	#14
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	There is definitely some subsidies for grain and corn as food, and that is wrong, but the subsidies for corn for ethanol is something like 10 times that. And I also agree on the state to state thing. While I believe states need to take back almost all the power the government has stolen from them, they need to use their brains and cooperate on things that make sense like that, and on using 1 type of gas, not 98. The US will get diesel cars eventually. As long as they are not absurdly more expensive than gas engines they will sell. __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

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10-24-2010, 08:06 PM	#2
severous01 Drives: 2008 yaris, stripped, red Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SE Texas Posts: 977	hah.....yea right. with all the noisey and smelly diesel trucks out there...americans seem to think that all diesels are noisy and dirty. but, bmw has a 335d that's amazing. 30mpg on highway and pushing 435tq and 250 hp. not bad seeing as how it's very nice, powerful, efficient, quiet, and not much more expensive than a 335i. your fuel cost per year is about 1000 less than that of a gas car. and it makes more torque...not as much hp though...and doesnt come near the rpm of a gas car. but then again...with the torque, who needs rpm? and that's part of reliability of the engine as well.

10-25-2010, 03:53 AM	#4
henry33 Drives: yaris1.33 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: slovakia Posts: 425	its all depend on the demand if the customers force toyota to import D4D to usa it will do so . but I do not think that for Yaris has diesel some special meaning since it is efficient also with petrol engine ;) for big cars it is the best option have driven the V10 diesel from VW man that was something :D

10-25-2010, 04:08 AM	#5
birdman Drives: '08 Blazing Blue Yaris LB Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Posts: 496	That's the beauty of clean diesel it doesn't have that awful smell like the old technology and current American made ones. Plus you can burn bio fuel and help our farmers stay afloat. Bio diesel exhaust smells like french fries and is a whole lot easier on the environment than gasoline.

10-25-2010, 04:15 AM	#6
birdman Drives: '08 Blazing Blue Yaris LB Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Posts: 496	The Yaris with the D4D gets up to 84 mpg. They are sold in many markets especially where fuel is so costly and environmental respect is valued highly.

10-25-2010, 04:36 AM	#7
firemachine69 School'er of hard knocks Drives: Silver Yaris 4dr. HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sudbury, On Posts: 556	The average consumer will never accept having 6K of emission-control stuff hanging off a 13K car. /end thread

10-25-2010, 05:24 AM	#8
henry33 Drives: yaris1.33 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: slovakia Posts: 425	what 6K for what ?

10-26-2010, 11:34 AM	#13
jstantherprsn Drives: 01 Toyota Echo Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philly Posts: 71	Thats a policy issue. The reason a huge chunk of the world is dependent upon us corn is because it is highly subsidized by the gov. We say we are for free trade but we are cheating by subsidizing it. We make it so cheap we put other farmers out of biz and they become dependent upon imports. So when fuel prices go up they starve because we destroyed their local market. Corn is subsidized so much, its in the majority of foods in the grocery store. Watch fuel and you'll get a good sense about biodiesel. It also doesn't help trying to get the engine passed in every state. When you see that huge outlay of funds. You go f it let them use gas, they'll buy it if they want to move.

01-16-2011, 07:18 PM	#15
birdman Drives: '08 Blazing Blue Yaris LB Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Posts: 496	Ethanol corn is grown with petroleum fertilizers which is part of the reason big oil is forcing the US government to subsidize its being grown. Corn ethanol already has a substantial carbon footprint even before it is used. So does non organic bio diesel.

01-16-2011, 07:55 PM	#16
severous01 Drives: 2008 yaris, stripped, red Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SE Texas Posts: 977	how about algae? seems pretty profitable to me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel

01-16-2011, 10:59 PM	#17
swidd Drives: Yaris HB Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Central Alabama, GOD BLESS AMERICA Posts: 755	So for real, could I sink an imported diesel engine into my American Yaris, and start rolling with diesel?

01-17-2011, 06:41 PM	#18
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,792	What would the diesel option cost?