Whats the big deal with 5-lug applications on small cars? - Toyota Yaris Forums

marlondog · 12-14-2008, 03:51 PM

I've noticed that a few of the yarii ive seen have 5-lug wheels instead of 4. Now the car is relativly light, small engine, and the wheels are usually under 18 inches. Is this something someone does to there car to get more "street cred?" Is this necessary, or are these people just doing it for the kicks?

thebarber · 12-14-2008, 04:07 PM

um, unless theyve done conversion to scion xD brakes, i doubt any yaris's have 5 bolt wheels....theyre all 4x100

so if people are doing 5 bolt conversions, its likely just to say theyve done it because theres not that big of a reason to convert your yaris to 5 bolts unless youre racing or something...

Kal-El · 12-14-2008, 04:21 PM

In case you need to carry more than 2 tons in the Yaris.

If people are spending money on these conversions, why did they buy a Yaris if they can afford to throw money away?

Kaotic Lazagna · 12-14-2008, 04:21 PM

I've also heard that 5-lugs have more wheel choices than 4-lugs.

LtNoogie · 12-14-2008, 04:21 PM

I believe another reason is that Brembo does not make a BBK for a 4x100 pattern. Those who want the distinction of wearing Brembo's have to covert to 5 bolt.

Kaotic Lazagna · 12-14-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LtNoogie

I believe another reason is that Brembo does not make a BBK for a 4x100 pattern. Those who want the distinction of wearing Brembo's have to covert to 5 bolt.

There goes the wheel choices reason I was talking about

LtNoogie · 12-14-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal-El

If people are spending money on these conversions, why did they buy a Yaris if they can afford to throw money away?

Sometimes, you buy a cheap base car and then throw the money at it that you saved to get it modded just the way you want it.

If I bought a $23,000 car, it would be nice but not have everything exactly the way I want. By the time I modded it, that would bring it up to $27k or more. Then someone would say, "why didn't you just buy a $27k car?"

Kal-El · 12-14-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LtNoogie

Sometimes, you buy a cheap base car and then throw the money at it that you saved to get it modded just the way you want it.

If I bought a $23,000 car, it would be nice but not have everything exactly the way I want. By the time I modded it, that would bring it up to $27k or more. Then someone would say, "why didn't you just buy a $27k car?"

Absolutely. But this particular "mod" is, imo, a waste and not really a mod at all. There's plenty of 4-bolt wheels available to choose from. I imagine this conversion would cost 100's of dollars. Perhaps the cost of 3-4 wheels themselves.

LtNoogie · 12-14-2008, 04:43 PM

You're right that there are plenty of 4-bolt wheels available. I was just thinking they would do that 1) to be unique or 2) to install a Brembo BBK.

Kaotic Lazagna · 12-14-2008, 04:53 PM

I know there are plenty of wheels available for 4-lugs, but I believe there are more options out there for 5-lugs. I know some of my Suby and Evo buddies have rims that are not offered in 4-lug patterns. Also, there are sub categories in that itself. Some wheels are not offered in 4x100, but only in 4x114.3 patterns.

Also, I know the Honda guys convert to 5-lugs do accommodate Type R rims. For the Yaris folks, I'd think either to get different wheel options, or like you guys said, just to say the have done it.

My friend with a 240 converted his car from a 4-lug to a 5-lug to be able to have some 3-piece Advans (the split three-spoke ones).

KCALB SIRAY · 12-14-2008, 05:37 PM

3 times as much in wheel choice, plus it's something different

tuckevalastin · 12-14-2008, 05:51 PM

some wheels are pretty enough to make a man do strange things

josevenezolano · 12-14-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

I've also heard that 5-lugs have more wheel choices than 4-lugs.

That's Right.. If you look a eBay for example most of the nice and big rims are 5 lugs.. I used to like a set of 20" rims they were really nice but I couldn't find them in 4lug so I got a set of 18".

Kal-El · 12-14-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by josevenezolano

That's Right.. If you look a eBay for example most of the nice and big rims are 5 lugs.. I used to like a set of 20" rims they were really nice but I couldn't find them in 4lug so I got a set of 18".

Well, since we're talking about the Yaris/small cars with 4-lug patterns, 20 incher's would never fit anyway. I think the biggest 4-lug is probably 18's.

Kaotic Lazagna · 12-14-2008, 08:00 PM

I know of one member (banned now) who had 20's on his LB. I don't think his was lowered tho.

josevenezolano · 12-14-2008, 11:42 PM

20" will fit our Yaris. I've see Yaris in 20" before.

eTiMaGo · 12-15-2008, 04:23 AM

it looks ridiculous but yes, it can be, and has been done

Kal-El · 12-15-2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by josevenezolano

20" will fit our Yaris. I've see Yaris in 20" before.

You probably can't turn though, lol. And you must need rubber band tires.

Anything over 18" on a Yaris is ridiculous. Actually, 18's are a bit too big themselves. 17's are perfect.

12-14-2008, 03:51 PM	#1
marlondog Shut your fricken suck!!! View User's Garage Drives: 07' liftback Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 755	Whats the big deal with 5-lug applications on small cars? I've noticed that a few of the yarii ive seen have 5-lug wheels instead of 4. Now the car is relativly light, small engine, and the wheels are usually under 18 inches. Is this something someone does to there car to get more "street cred?" Is this necessary, or are these people just doing it for the kicks?

12-14-2008, 04:07 PM	#2
thebarber daily driver View User's Garage Drives: the #wrecho Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,877	um, unless theyve done conversion to scion xD brakes, i doubt any yaris's have 5 bolt wheels....theyre all 4x100 so if people are doing 5 bolt conversions, its likely just to say theyve done it because theres not that big of a reason to convert your yaris to 5 bolts unless youre racing or something... __________________

12-14-2008, 04:21 PM	#5
LtNoogie View User's Garage Drives: '08 Bayou Blue LB AT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 2,517	I believe another reason is that Brembo does not make a BBK for a 4x100 pattern. Those who want the distinction of wearing Brembo's have to covert to 5 bolt. __________________ aFe Intake \| Blitz Supercharger \| Megan Header \| TRD Exhaust \| NST Pulley Set TRD Shocks/Struts \| Tanabe NF210 Springs \| TRD Sway Bar \| Motegi TRAKLITE wheels \| Kuhmo Ecsta XS R1 Concepts slotted rotors \| Carbotech 1521 brake pads \| stainless steel brake lines \| Seibon vented carbon fiber hood

12-14-2008, 04:43 PM	#9
LtNoogie View User's Garage Drives: '08 Bayou Blue LB AT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 2,517	You're right that there are plenty of 4-bolt wheels available. I was just thinking they would do that 1) to be unique or 2) to install a Brembo BBK. __________________ aFe Intake \| Blitz Supercharger \| Megan Header \| TRD Exhaust \| NST Pulley Set TRD Shocks/Struts \| Tanabe NF210 Springs \| TRD Sway Bar \| Motegi TRAKLITE wheels \| Kuhmo Ecsta XS R1 Concepts slotted rotors \| Carbotech 1521 brake pads \| stainless steel brake lines \| Seibon vented carbon fiber hood

12-14-2008, 05:37 PM	#11
KCALB SIRAY それを吸ってください View User's Garage Drives: black sand lb Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 8,894	3 times as much in wheel choice, plus it's something different __________________ http://lifesdailypimpslap.tumblr.com/#me My Build

12-14-2008, 04:21 PM	#3
Kal-El Drives: 07 Yaris S Sedan 5-Speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,179	In case you need to carry more than 2 tons in the Yaris. If people are spending money on these conversions, why did they buy a Yaris if they can afford to throw money away?

12-14-2008, 04:21 PM	#4
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	I've also heard that 5-lugs have more wheel choices than 4-lugs.

12-14-2008, 04:53 PM	#10
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	I know there are plenty of wheels available for 4-lugs, but I believe there are more options out there for 5-lugs. I know some of my Suby and Evo buddies have rims that are not offered in 4-lug patterns. Also, there are sub categories in that itself. Some wheels are not offered in 4x100, but only in 4x114.3 patterns. Also, I know the Honda guys convert to 5-lugs do accommodate Type R rims. For the Yaris folks, I'd think either to get different wheel options, or like you guys said, just to say the have done it. My friend with a 240 converted his car from a 4-lug to a 5-lug to be able to have some 3-piece Advans (the split three-spoke ones).

12-14-2008, 05:51 PM	#12
tuckevalastin View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Delaware/Connecticut Posts: 609	some wheels are pretty enough to make a man do strange things

12-14-2008, 08:00 PM	#15
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	I know of one member (banned now) who had 20's on his LB. I don't think his was lowered tho.

12-14-2008, 11:42 PM	#16
josevenezolano View User's Garage Drives: Toyota Yaris HB 2008 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Venezuela Posts: 173	20" will fit our Yaris. I've see Yaris in 20" before.

12-15-2008, 04:23 AM	#17
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