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HTM Yaris · 02-25-2009, 04:23 PM

All of you track whores definately need these .

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecID=2570

MicroHB · 02-25-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HTM Yaris

All of you track whores definately need these .

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecID=2570

oooo yes I love that website im on it everyday lol
I was considering those actually...:)

Loren · 02-25-2009, 05:28 PM

Nice hardware, but it's not going to give you any more brake rotor mass, which is the real shortcoming of the Yaris brakes on a race track. Multi-piston calipers give you more clamping force and can provide better brake feel... that's not what the Yaris needs. On a fast race track, the brakes simply get too hot. Brake cooling ducts help, but some larger rotors would probably help even more.

The bling calipers by themselves aren't going to improve track braking ability one bit.

kou · 02-25-2009, 05:51 PM

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/perf...Big_Brake_Kits

LtNoogie · 02-25-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kou

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/perf...Big_Brake_Kits

They don't say whether the smallest kits will fit on 15" wheels.

supmet · 02-25-2009, 05:52 PM

woops

HTM Yaris · 02-25-2009, 06:20 PM

Loren , you must be tired . :) I hate bling :)

Everybody knows that aluminum cools faster than metal (steel)composite , not to mention the weight savings .OK the weight savings is only 2-3 lbs per caliper .

I have seen brake failures . Alot of them due to overheated calipers . Whether melting the seals and/or boiling the fluid . Keep in mind a cool pad is just as important as a cool rotor . The only way a pad can cool is through heat disapation through the calipers or with an air duct . These calipers also offer an open end design which also allow more of the rotor to be cooled . Besides , these calipers cost $50 more than a new one(reman) from Auto Zone :)

I understand that 98% of the people on this forum will never get their brakes that hot , but to the 2% that do , these are more than bling .

HTM Yaris · 02-25-2009, 07:30 PM

Ken , the pad # is listed on the page

kngrsll · 02-25-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HTM Yaris

Ken , the pad # is listed on the page

LOL, i meant that there are few good pads for the stock yaris caliper. sorry! yeah, i see that, so yeah, there are probably a hundred good pads for it!

kngrsll · 02-25-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HTM Yaris

All of you track whores definately need these .

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecID=2570

mmmm.... car porn!

the big bonus to running those would be some decent pads finally. As far as i know, there are no good pads for size caliper. i am willing to bet some part number cross referencing will yield good results...

Loren · 02-25-2009, 11:02 PM

Yeah, you never seemed like the "bling" type to me. I guess I never considered the cooling properties of the caliper itself. And pad availability is a nice plus.

IF you need to replace your calipers, anyway... I can see the advantage.

Tamago · 02-25-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HTM Yaris

All of you track whores definately need these .

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecID=2570

why. stock brakes stop fine

Loren · 02-25-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamago

why. stock brakes stop fine

The do the first few times...

Then they get hot and start fading. Then they get hotter and quit working altogether! Been there, done that... fortunately, they recover quickly.

kngrsll · 02-26-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Loren

The do the first few times...

Then they get hot and start fading. Then they get hotter and quit working altogether! Been there, done that... fortunately, they recover quickly.

with a good high temp pad (hp+ or blue) and fluid, they should do fairly well since the car is light, but a little bit of ducting could go a long way!

loren, what kind of pads are you running now? im going to look into what other calipers may have the same part number so we can possible get another pad on the car, but i dunno what the chances of finding another are. have you done any ducting yet?

Loren · 02-26-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kngrsll

with a good high temp pad (hp+ or blue) and fluid, they should do fairly well since the car is light, but a little bit of ducting could go a long way!

loren, what kind of pads are you running now? im going to look into what other calipers may have the same part number so we can possible get another pad on the car, but i dunno what the chances of finding another are. have you done any ducting yet?

I've got some sort of Endless high-end street pad on the car. They're better than stock pads, but they do indeed have an "End"!

Yes, some brake ducting did help.

I agree, a really good track pad, high temp fluid, and some cooling ducts should be all any of us will really need.

kngrsll · 02-26-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Loren

I've got some sort of Endless high-end street pad on the car. They're better than stock pads, but they do indeed have an "End"!

Yes, some brake ducting did help.

I agree, a really good track pad, high temp fluid, and some cooling ducts should be all any of us will really need.

do you have pics of your ducting anywhere??

Tamago · 02-26-2009, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Loren

The do the first few times...

Then they get hot and start fading. Then they get hotter and quit working altogether! Been there, done that... fortunately, they recover quickly.

5 years of racing.. i've run stock rotors (still on original rotors after 5 years) ran stock pads til 50K miles... now on project Mu pads.

never experienced brake fade

and you guys have bigger rotors and bigger calipers and bigger pads

wtf are you guys doing?

kngrsll · 02-26-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tamago

5 years of racing.. i've run stock rotors (still on original rotors after 5 years) ran stock pads til 50K miles... now on project Mu pads.

never experienced brake fade

and you guys have bigger rotors and bigger calipers and bigger pads

wtf are you guys doing?

who has bigger brakes here?

02-25-2009, 04:23 PM	#1
HTM Yaris resident senior View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south Carolina Posts: 814	Track Whores All of you track whores definately need these . http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecID=2570 __________________

02-25-2009, 05:28 PM	#3
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	Nice hardware, but it's not going to give you any more brake rotor mass, which is the real shortcoming of the Yaris brakes on a race track. Multi-piston calipers give you more clamping force and can provide better brake feel... that's not what the Yaris needs. On a fast race track, the brakes simply get too hot. Brake cooling ducts help, but some larger rotors would probably help even more. The bling calipers by themselves aren't going to improve track braking ability one bit. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

02-25-2009, 06:20 PM	#7
HTM Yaris resident senior View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south Carolina Posts: 814	Loren , you must be tired . :) I hate bling :) Everybody knows that aluminum cools faster than metal (steel)composite , not to mention the weight savings .OK the weight savings is only 2-3 lbs per caliper . I have seen brake failures . Alot of them due to overheated calipers . Whether melting the seals and/or boiling the fluid . Keep in mind a cool pad is just as important as a cool rotor . The only way a pad can cool is through heat disapation through the calipers or with an air duct . These calipers also offer an open end design which also allow more of the rotor to be cooled . Besides , these calipers cost $50 more than a new one(reman) from Auto Zone :) I understand that 98% of the people on this forum will never get their brakes that hot , but to the 2% that do , these are more than bling . __________________ Last edited by HTM Yaris; 02-25-2009 at 08:17 PM.

02-25-2009, 07:30 PM	#8
HTM Yaris resident senior View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: south Carolina Posts: 814	Ken , the pad # is listed on the page __________________

02-25-2009, 11:02 PM	#11
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	Yeah, you never seemed like the "bling" type to me. I guess I never considered the cooling properties of the caliper itself. And pad availability is a nice plus. IF you need to replace your calipers, anyway... I can see the advantage. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

02-25-2009, 05:51 PM	#4
kou View User's Garage Drives: 08 lb Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: nj Posts: 935	http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/perf...Big_Brake_Kits

02-25-2009, 05:52 PM	#6
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