Notchy short shifter - Toyota Yaris Forums

Brad D · 06-17-2009, 02:27 PM

Just installed a piggies shifter.. same as TRD.. and it feels good but takes a bit more efort to get it out of gear.. any one have this issue? or will I just get use to it?

Does any one bend the caple mount so its at a better angle going up to the shifter pin? could it be binding a bit?

cali yaris · 06-17-2009, 02:30 PM

the piggie SSK gives some people trouble, and others like it just fine. Maybe there is some inconsistency in their production. I'll just say, with all due respect, that you get what you pay for.

marcus · 06-17-2009, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad D

Just installed a piggies shifter.. same as TRD.. and it feels good but takes a bit more efort to get it out of gear.. any one have this issue? or will I just get use to it?

Does any one bend the caple mount so its at a better angle going up to the shifter pin? could it be binding a bit?

i had the same feeling but believe me after a week youll love it..i even went 2.25 shofter on the shaft.annoying at first but ur wrist will get use to it..

TWM Performance · 06-17-2009, 03:01 PM

The main issue with this adapter is that it puts the shifter cable at a bad angle (because there is no bracket to correctly re-position the cable). This angle on the cable makes the shifter hard to get out of gear. It's also not good for the shifter cable to sit at such an angle.

Frank
TWM Performance

s3r3nity · 06-17-2009, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWM Performance

The main issue with this adapter is that it puts the shifter cable at a bad angle (because there is no bracket to correctly re-position the cable). This angle on the cable makes the shifter hard to get out of gear. It's also not good for the shifter cable to sit at such an angle.

Frank
TWM Performance

TRD short shifter comes with the bracket to rectify that issue and repositions the cable in line with the new height.

replicas are cheaper to buy as they dont include that bracket.

TWM Performance · 06-17-2009, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s3r3nity

TRD short shifter comes with the bracket to rectify that issue and repositions the cable in line with the new height.

replicas are cheaper to buy as they dont include that bracket.

Exactly.

*tk-421* · 06-17-2009, 03:22 PM

I've had the NST SSK for at least 2 years and haven't had any problems "getting out of gear" at all. Since the Piggies and NST designs are very similar, I'm not sure what Frank@TWM is referring to.

I definitely still recommend the NST SSK as one of the best investments for the Yaris yet.

s3r3nity · 06-17-2009, 03:33 PM

i have the NST full bushing set in cabin and linkage/ TRD short shifter with included adapter plate and the TWM in cabin shift arm with a 2" extention to reposition the shiter a little higher.
i have to say i really love the feel now and i did run without the plate for a while...
it was all out of lazyness... but my god it makes quite the huge difference with it installed!

no more having to throw your shifts all the time.. they are now quite smooth and easy to put in and out of gear.

CASTREX · 06-17-2009, 04:30 PM

I had a problem like the OP described. The cable was just to tight into the SSk.

Some WD-40 solved it. Spray the hole assembly...

PHXDEMON · 06-19-2009, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CASTREX

I had a problem like the OP described. The cable was just to tight into the SSk.

Some WD-40 solved it. Spray the hole assembly...

Do this. I also have the piggies SSK (couldn't pass it up for only 50 bucks) and the shifting is firmer but I personally like the feel a let better. Spray it down with WD40 and that should help out a lot.

aeipee13 · 06-17-2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s3r3nity

i have the NST full bushing set in cabin and linkage/ TRD short shifter with included adapter plate and the TWM in cabin shift arm with a 2" extention to reposition the shiter a little higher.
i have to say i really love the feel now and i did run without the plate for a while...
it was all out of lazyness... but my god it makes quite the huge difference with it installed!

no more having to throw your shifts all the time.. they are now quite smooth and easy to put in and out of gear.

my setup is similar but using http://www.doctorisotope.com/gearswitchers. If you can handle the install it is worth it.

eTiMaGo · 06-17-2009, 05:43 PM

I recommend to get the NST cable bushings, it really tightened up the feel of the shifter, reduced the notchiness quite a bit!

Brad D · 06-18-2009, 12:13 PM

Thanks for the ifo guys.. I think I will try to move the cable mount up a bit

MUSKOKA800 · 06-18-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad D

Just installed a piggies shifter.. same as TRD.. and it feels good but takes a bit more efort to get it out of gear.. any one have this issue? or will I just get use to it?

Does any one bend the caple mount so its at a better angle going up to the shifter pin? could it be binding a bit?

I installed a Piggies just day's after I got my sedan. The stock shift pattern was far to large and rediculously sloppy. No problems thus far after 42,000 kl. of use.
Of course there is slightly more effort required due to the mechanical advantage lost by it's changing the leverage points.

In fact, I may add the NST gizmo that extends the base of the shifter to even further shorten the shift pattern and fully expect slightly more effort be required once again. Not a biggy.

*tk-421* · 06-18-2009, 02:49 PM

That "NST Gizmo" you're referring to is absolutely awesome. I installed it a few days ago and it is the perfect complement to the first SSK. Although it does shorten the throw a bit more (nothing too big), the real benefit lies in how much easier it is to get in/out of gears.

NonStopTuning · 06-18-2009, 07:10 PM

I have yet to hear of any negative reviews regarding the feel of the NST SSK or NST SSK-2.

In fact, there have been more positive independent reviews of the NST components for the Yaris than any other brand. Here is one independent review of all the NST drivetrain components...

http://www.subcompactculture.com/200...nst-short.html

The largest short shifter related thread on YW centers mainly around the NST components... pages and pages of customer reviews, thoughts, and comments on the issue and subjects surrounding the matter...

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7535

Good luck and have fun with all your projects everyone!

Brad D · 06-18-2009, 08:36 PM

Id say all of the CNC'd short shifters are the same.. unless one uses a higher grade of aluminum. I bet they are all super close to the same specs.. the one thing that is going to make one better than another is if it comes with a shifter cable bracket that lifts the cable up.. Think about it.. the cable is now going up hill from where it was stock.. about a inch higher.

Had I know that the TRD one came with a bracket i would of got it.

NonStopTuning · 06-18-2009, 08:47 PM

While it is true that all CNC machined pieces SHOULD be the same, they often are not.

Certain machines, as well as certain companies, have better/tighter quality/tolerance controls than others.

This is not a knock against company X, nor an endorsement for company Y. It is simply stating facts that often go overlooked.

Either way, good luck and have fun with all your projects everyone!

06-17-2009, 02:27 PM	#1
Brad D Drives: 07 Yaris RS 3dr Join Date: May 2009 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 34	Notchy short shifter Just installed a piggies shifter.. same as TRD.. and it feels good but takes a bit more efort to get it out of gear.. any one have this issue? or will I just get use to it? Does any one bend the caple mount so its at a better angle going up to the shifter pin? could it be binding a bit?

06-17-2009, 02:30 PM	#2
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	the piggie SSK gives some people trouble, and others like it just fine. Maybe there is some inconsistency in their production. I'll just say, with all due respect, that you get what you pay for. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

06-17-2009, 03:22 PM	#7
tk-421 Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: 5D-07-LB Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dagobah Posts: 4,263	I've had the NST SSK for at least 2 years and haven't had any problems "getting out of gear" at all. Since the Piggies and NST designs are very similar, I'm not sure what Frank@TWM is referring to. I definitely still recommend the NST SSK as one of the best investments for the Yaris yet. __________________ --[ FORUM RULES ]--[ SEARCHING TIPS ]--[ EYELIDS PICS ]--[ RBK SPOILER ]--[ BEST/WORST INVESTMENTS ]--

06-17-2009, 05:43 PM	#12
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	I recommend to get the NST cable bushings, it really tightened up the feel of the shifter, reduced the notchiness quite a bit! __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

06-18-2009, 02:49 PM	#15
tk-421 Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: 5D-07-LB Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dagobah Posts: 4,263	That "NST Gizmo" you're referring to is absolutely awesome. I installed it a few days ago and it is the perfect complement to the first SSK. Although it does shorten the throw a bit more (nothing too big), the real benefit lies in how much easier it is to get in/out of gears. __________________ --[ FORUM RULES ]--[ SEARCHING TIPS ]--[ EYELIDS PICS ]--[ RBK SPOILER ]--[ BEST/WORST INVESTMENTS ]--

06-17-2009, 03:01 PM	#4
TWM Performance Drives: 84 GTI, 90 GTR, 97 Si Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 307	The main issue with this adapter is that it puts the shifter cable at a bad angle (because there is no bracket to correctly re-position the cable). This angle on the cable makes the shifter hard to get out of gear. It's also not good for the shifter cable to sit at such an angle. Frank TWM Performance

06-17-2009, 03:33 PM	#8
s3r3nity traded_my_mk1_for_a_yaris Drives: Boosted Sleeper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hull, QC Posts: 27	i have the NST full bushing set in cabin and linkage/ TRD short shifter with included adapter plate and the TWM in cabin shift arm with a 2" extention to reposition the shiter a little higher. i have to say i really love the feel now and i did run without the plate for a while... it was all out of lazyness... but my god it makes quite the huge difference with it installed! no more having to throw your shifts all the time.. they are now quite smooth and easy to put in and out of gear.

06-17-2009, 04:30 PM	#9
CASTREX Who said Yaris was slow? View User's Garage Drives: Yaris T-Sport 2008 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 1,287	I had a problem like the OP described. The cable was just to tight into the SSk. Some WD-40 solved it. Spray the hole assembly...

06-18-2009, 12:13 PM	#13
Brad D Drives: 07 Yaris RS 3dr Join Date: May 2009 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 34	Thanks for the ifo guys.. I think I will try to move the cable mount up a bit

06-18-2009, 07:10 PM	#16
NonStopTuning Drives: NST CARS: S13 AE86 ANT10 AW11 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,097	I have yet to hear of any negative reviews regarding the feel of the NST SSK or NST SSK-2. In fact, there have been more positive independent reviews of the NST components for the Yaris than any other brand. Here is one independent review of all the NST drivetrain components... http://www.subcompactculture.com/200...nst-short.html The largest short shifter related thread on YW centers mainly around the NST components... pages and pages of customer reviews, thoughts, and comments on the issue and subjects surrounding the matter... http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7535 Good luck and have fun with all your projects everyone! __________________ MIKE @ NST www.NonStopTuning.com

06-18-2009, 08:36 PM	#17
Brad D Drives: 07 Yaris RS 3dr Join Date: May 2009 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 34	Id say all of the CNC'd short shifters are the same.. unless one uses a higher grade of aluminum. I bet they are all super close to the same specs.. the one thing that is going to make one better than another is if it comes with a shifter cable bracket that lifts the cable up.. Think about it.. the cable is now going up hill from where it was stock.. about a inch higher. Had I know that the TRD one came with a bracket i would of got it.

06-18-2009, 08:47 PM	#18
NonStopTuning Drives: NST CARS: S13 AE86 ANT10 AW11 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,097	While it is true that all CNC machined pieces SHOULD be the same, they often are not. Certain machines, as well as certain companies, have better/tighter quality/tolerance controls than others. This is not a knock against company X, nor an endorsement for company Y. It is simply stating facts that often go overlooked. Either way, good luck and have fun with all your projects everyone! __________________ MIKE @ NST www.NonStopTuning.com

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
DIY: Make Your Own Short Shifter	33OH	Cosmetic Modifications (Exterior/Interior)	7	02-24-2009 02:06 PM
twm short shifter installed!	dngz	Performance Modifications	115	08-02-2007 02:11 PM
TWM Short Shifter Boxing Week Blowout!	TWM Performance	Sponsors Classifieds Area	2	01-08-2007 05:01 PM
November: Big Yaris Short Shifter Sale!	TWM Performance	Sponsors Classifieds Area	14	12-12-2006 11:50 AM
TWM Yaris Short Shifter Sale!	TWM Performance	Sponsors Classifieds Area	9	08-28-2006 04:37 PM