16's or 17's

[riceboy]

What does everyone think? At first I was thinking that 17's were my best bet,.. but after thinking about it some more I'm thinking that 16's might offer the better performance pkg, not to mention less chance for wheel damage from all those crappy toronto streets...

[DJ_SpaRky]

I'll be getting or using my current 17"s

[Idjiit]

Given the two choices, I'd go with 16 since the car is so low-powered. Personally, I'll be going with 15s.

[why?]

It depends on what you are going for. For maximum performance the bigger the wheels the better.

For looks, the same applies.

If something else, then you can go with smaller wheels.

I'm prolly going with 14s.

[bdiu]

17" no doubt

[SophieSleeps]

Originally Posted by why?

It depends on what you are going for. For maximum performance the bigger the wheels the better.

For looks, the same applies.

If something else, then you can go with smaller wheels.

I'm prolly going with 14s.

Yo man. I don't mean to pick on you.

But bigger isn't better for performance.

If the overall diameter of a wheel is say 20"
And you have 19" of it metal, and 1" tire...teh combination will weigh much more than one with say 15" of metal and 5" of tire.

Rotating mass kills performance.


However, you are right about thinner sidewalls being better for performance.
Having a stiff, thin sidewall makes a car much more responsive.

If I do end up getting a Yaris...I will be going with 18's.
I don't care about performance on a car with 100hp.
Why would anyone?
If I decide to play around, I will throw in some forged internals and boost it to high heaven. Screw this 140 hp stuff. That's kiddies play.

[why?]

Originally Posted by SophieSleeps

Yo man. I don't mean to pick on you.

But bigger isn't better for performance.

If the overall diameter of a wheel is say 20"
And you have 19" of it metal, and 1" tire...teh combination will weigh much more than one with say 15" of metal and 5" of tire.

Rotating mass kills performance.


However, you are right about thinner sidewalls being better for performance.
Having a stiff, thin sidewall makes a car much more responsive.

If I do end up getting a Yaris...I will be going with 18's.
I don't care about performance on a car with 100hp.
Why would anyone?
If I decide to play around, I will throw in some forged internals and boost it to high heaven. Screw this 140 hp stuff. That's kiddies play.

Dude, for handling, the bigger the better. For tires performance=handling.

As I said before, you really are an ass.

[SophieSleeps]

Originally Posted by why?

Dude, for handling, the bigger the better. For tires performance=handling.

As I said before, you really are an ass.

Tire size has nothing to do with rim size.
The dude's question was about wheel size, not tire size.



You can run a 305 on a 18 or a 305 on a 16. Either way, the contact patch on the tire is the same.

Width doesn't necessarily mean performance. The wider the tire, the slower you'll go but the better you will turn.

All I'm saying is that you shouldn't make a blanket statement like "bigger is always better".
How come race cars don't run big 26" wheels then?

-Ass

[TRD_Yaris]

Originally Posted by why?

Dude, for handling, the bigger the better. For tires performance=handling.

As I said before, you really are an ass.

umm..no.. tire performance is a COMBINATION of lateral/longitudal grip as well as balancing sidewall stiffness between Ride Comfort and Responsive handling. If bigger wheels = better perormance, then why do people drag race with small, lightweight wheels?! stiff sidewalls SUCK for launching...so, obviously bigger doesn't always means better performance.

Pretty much, if you choose a wheel/tire combo that weighs more than stock, you will lose performance 99% of the time. If you can go bigger and reduce weight, then more props to you, but be prepared to drop 1/4 cost of your yaris for some forged Volks, iForged, HRE, etc.
Personally, i'll spend $95 each for 15x6.5 Falken Hanabis (11.13 pounds) w/ Falken Ziex 512 tires for $41 each... mounted/balanced/shipped from EDGERACING.com for less about $600...
hehe...i remember having 18" staggered wheels on my GS300..people thought it was lame that i didn't have 20s until they saw my timeslips or looked under the hood (2JZGTTE swap from JDM AE94 Supra).
If you feel it more important to look sporty than to be sporty, then that's your choice. but, please don't go around saying that bigger wheels = ALL AROUND better performance, because you are 99% wrong.

Lemme guess, very few of you actually circuit/club race and do your own tuning/modification?....thought so. going from Cast to Forged 15" wheels on my SCCA civic freed up 3whp (at 2600rpm) to 7+whp @ redline...
and for you that don't know the difference between cast and forged, then you shouldn't be buying aftermarket wheels to begin with


oh, and btw..going with much wider tires than stock will also hurt your gas mileage and cause your vehicle to pull to the side more when going over uneven surfaces (either from different roughness or topography). just be prepared to struggle more, and watch those potholes...hahaha

[wlfpck]

Originally Posted by why?

It depends on what you are going for. For maximum performance the bigger the wheels the better.

For looks, the same applies.

If something else, then you can go with smaller wheels.

I'm prolly going with 14s.

actually... u probably don't wanna go over 17's... cuz the bigger the wheel, the more power it requires to get it moving.

[FCP91]

18S!!!! Yea!

[birdy]

22's ya'll (omg omg omg omg)

jk

[DJ_SpaRky]

Originally Posted by birdy

22's ya'll (omg omg omg omg)

jk

LOL, I know some people are trying to put them on xBs but they can't find a tire small enough.

[YarisHatch]

15's or 16's if you want performance, 17's if you want looks. Anything more than that, common its a yaris.

[Thirty-Nine]

Originally Posted by YarisHatch

15's or 16's if you want performance, 17's if you want looks. :

Ditto. I had 18s on my xB, and it sapped the power out of the little 1NZ-FE. I switched to some lighter-weight 16s with sticky rubber and I love it!

[jcove]

Originally Posted by riceboy

What does everyone think? At first I was thinking that 17's were my best bet,.. but after thinking about it some more I'm thinking that 16's might offer the better performance pkg, not to mention less chance for wheel damage from all those crappy toronto streets...

I'd like the 17's, but you make a good point about the streets here. LOL I want to put in the lowering springs first (wish I did it when I got the car) Then I'll worry about the wheels. I have something in the works for an exhaust. I didn't plan to do it until later this summer but something good has come along. I'll post more about it later, in another thread.

[drell42]

for me its a 16x7

[riceboy]

I'm pretty sure the 18s are out of the question running low pro 30 rubber bands isn't that appealing to me... that could mean bent rims, and really, really, really expensive tires... the more I look at the Yaris, the more I think that 17s would be the best fit... My major dilema is that I'm stuck in thinking that for the same price of a 17 in pkg, I could get some better quality wheels and tires pkg in 16.....