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Old 04-28-2006, 07:33 PM   #1
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TRD OR Eibach...i'm confused...

This is a question for those who have installed Toyota factory lowering springs....

Are the lowering springs offered by toyota from Eibach or TRD? I was talking to the salesguy today in the accessories department at toyota and he told me their the same. He said Eibach is the manufacturer and TRD is just the label name. I have read on some of the thread here that the lowering springs that people are getting at the toyota factory are Eibach springs and not TRD springs. For me I really like the look of the factory lowering springs that people are getting, I just wanted to make sure that I'am getting the right springs from the dealership. So for example, if I wanted those Eibach springs do I ask them for it or are the TRD springs the Eibach springs????

Sorry to make this kind of confusing...I just want to make sure that I'am getting the right product if I'am gonna pay $600 bucks for it.
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:22 PM   #2
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I don't own the springs, but maybe I can help you out.

Eibach is a major spring manufacturer, supplying springs for many OEM's - from truck manufacturers to Formula One teams. TRD is the brand name for Toyota's performance division, like Honda's Mugen and Nissan's Nismo.

It is very possible that TRD's springs are made by Eibach to TRD's specs - which are then branded as TRD springs. This situation is probably true for the TRD struts as well; I can only guess, but I'll bet Tokico or Showa manufacture TRD's struts to their specs and then TRD brands 'em.

If you go to an official Toyota Dealer and ask for TRD parts, you should be okay. To be really sure, you could always ask to see the box before they install 'em.
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Old 04-28-2006, 11:13 PM   #3
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There's nothing to indicate the spring manufacturer on the box, it's just a plain corrugated cardboard box. From my understanding they are Eibach's branded to be used for Toyota. No big deal, it's common practice for a lot of accessories to be manufactured by third parties and then rebranded as OEM or OEM performance parts. It's just a matter of buying from the dealer gives you the peace of mind that you have someone to go back to in case anything goes wrong. In my experience Toyota will stand behind the products and look after you, whereas some private shops forget that you even exist after you get the install done, let alone look after you should something go wrong with a part or install that you've paid for. In any case, I think I've said it in another thread but I highly recommend the Toyota lowering springs, they really help to make the car sit properly from both a esthetic and a performance point of view. At the same time it's nothing too aggressive and won't make you cringe anytime you go over a pothole or railway tracks or speed bumps, or etc.
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Old 04-29-2006, 03:25 PM   #4
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My dealer installed springs came with Eibach Pro-Kit documentation in that plain corrugated box...
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:13 AM   #5
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TRD springs = Eibach springs
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:08 AM   #6
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TRD springs = Eibach springs
Wrong.. TRD <> Eibach springs.
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Old 05-03-2006, 10:20 AM   #7
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I can confirm Echo's post, that the TRD lowering springs offered at Canadian Toyota Dealers come with Eibach Pro Kit documentation. This is in fact not unusual (that these TRD springs are made by Eibach), Nike for example does not actually manufacture anything.
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Old 05-03-2006, 08:52 PM   #8
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I can confirm Echo's post, that the TRD lowering springs offered at Canadian Toyota Dealers come with Eibach Pro Kit documentation. This is in fact not unusual (that these TRD springs are made by Eibach), Nike for example does not actually manufacture anything.
Correct. However, you'll find it might be co-incidence to know that the TRD springs have the same spring rate as Eibach but each company test them to suit their satisfactory level.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:56 PM   #9
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Sorry to dig this up, but it will be my next mod. And I just knew about this a few days ago.

I have a friend that works in Toyota here in Portugal, and he said that the springs are Eibach.

So for me, there is no point in buying TRD (TTE) springs, you know why? Because in Europe everything is fuc**** expensive. They charge us 370$ (290€) for TRD springs.

Eibach springs (the same ones I guess) will cost me about 230$ (180€).

One thing it makes me confuse, is that Toyota says the TRD lowers -30mm, but Eibach says the pro-kit will lower -25mm
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Old 11-06-2008, 02:55 AM   #10
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Sorry to dig this up, but it will be my next mod. And I just knew about this a few days ago.

I have a friend that works in Toyota here in Portugal, and he said that the springs are Eibach.

So for me, there is no point in buying TRD (TTE) springs, you know why? Because in Europe everything is fuc**** expensive. They charge us 370$ (290€) for TRD springs.

Eibach springs (the same ones I guess) will cost me about 230$ (180€).

One thing it makes me confuse, is that Toyota says the TRD lowers -30mm, but Eibach says the pro-kit will lower -25mm
the reason they are diffrent numbers is cause eibach makes there own lowering spring for the yaris... they ALSO make springs spec'd to TRD's wantings... thats the reason for a different drop.. the TRD spings are sopost to work with the TRD shocks (i think there KYB's) same concept with socks... Racing Heart makes the "TRD 18in. Wheels" there just badged TRD.. AEM makes the CAI for TRD... but the TRD comes with a bypass valve.... i think eibach makes the rear sway bar as well.. making any cents?

and to clearify something... honda does NOT have mugen... its a company that makes Honda parts but you cant go into a honda dealer and ask for mugen parts... nismo on the other hand IS a nissan company like TRD. there for you can go to a nissan dealer and order nismo parts.
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Old 05-03-2006, 04:42 PM   #11
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rofl, most brand names you see don't make the product's you;d think of when you hear their name.

Singer subcontracts all their sowing machines out, they actually make computer chips now, lol.
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Old 05-03-2006, 11:16 PM   #12
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Makes sense, since each offers a warranty.
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Old 05-27-2006, 02:27 PM   #13
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TRD SPRINGS will cost you $160.00 american plus shipping
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:14 PM   #14
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I found on the internet the part no. for hatchback lowering spring. It doesn't say if is TRD or not...

Part #: PTR04-52060

Is this the TRD lowering springs? If not, where can i find it?
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Old 11-06-2008, 01:11 AM   #15
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Just so you know no dealer toyota honda etc manufacture thier own parts. They sublet it to a company and they make it and then they stick thier label on it. For example honda usses a lot of nissin parts. And it says honda on the box. But occasionally on the part you can see the stamp nissan. Infact if they havve problems with brake pads they will switch to a different brand. So you could buy 2 boxes of brake pads for the same car but a few years later it would be a different type cause they found out this other brand has less combacks.

I had a customer in my shop once that didnt belive me they wanted only OEM parts. So i orderd a master cylinder from napa auto parts and a master cylinder from worldpack which is a oem cylinder that says honda all over th ebox. ANd took them both out. Identical in every way and both said nissin on them. Just one napa put thier name on and one honda put thiers on. So i told the customer if you want you can have this one because it comes with a pretty box but its 30 percent more expensive. I warrenty both parts for 1 year reguardless
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:17 PM   #16
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My TRD springs came for the US.
Eibach advertise a 1" drop.
TRD advertise a 1.25" drop.
Mine have settled in at approx. a 1.5" drop.

Eibach may make TRD springs but that doesn't necessarily mean they are the same spec. And likely aren't.
For what it's worth, the photo on Toyota Canada's 2008 Yaris option/accessory webpage clearly showed springs marked "Eibach". Of course the price was totally outrageous.
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:32 PM   #17
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Is this a good price for TRD

I went to Sparkstoyota.com to look at Full TRD Suspension which includes everything shocks, springs and rear sway bar = price is $787.00 which includes shipping. Is that a good price? Or has anyone know of better. And does any one know a ballpark on price to get it installed. I looking to do this soon maybe christmas time. This is for my car to improve the ride. My husband's is staying stock.
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:06 PM   #18
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I went to Sparkstoyota.com to look at Full TRD Suspension which includes everything shocks, springs and rear sway bar = price is $787.00 which includes shipping. Is that a good price? Or has anyone know of better. And does any one know a ballpark on price to get it installed. I looking to do this soon maybe christmas time. This is for my car to improve the ride. My husband's is staying stock.
if u come to jersey ill be able to install the sway bar and ill be able to get a nice price for the install of the shocks and springs.... my car club pres owns a body shop they got tools there lol.. worse case there is a shop that sponcers us called autoformace in clifton... my friend got the NST pulley installed on his accord yesterday for 50 bucks... so im sure i can get u a sweet deal and it would be done quick..

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MUSKOKA800 agreed just as i stated above ur post
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