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sqcomp · 09-27-2012, 02:45 AM

It's a two seat Ultimate class IIRC. Nice little xA from Vince.

sqcomp · 09-28-2012, 12:48 AM

Rebuild time!

The next pillar will be done tomorrow night. Then I take the night off on Saturday...Sunday is for sanding, and short hair. Monday is for finishing the pillars and readying for texture.

derickveliz2 · 09-28-2012, 12:56 AM

Awesome,

but mine will stay down in the kick area, physics tell me they belong there, I'm sure you and SB know some thing I don't know, of course I'm just an enthusiast and you guys are the Pros! Very interested how works for you, and all we know, this is the never ending story.

D.

sqcomp · 09-28-2012, 01:14 AM

I lied...I just finished the longhair of the right side as well...

Lots of sanding to come.

Indeed! The never ending story!

Alien Mantis · 09-28-2012, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Indeed! The never ending story!

Here is SQcomp.... riding his luck dragon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWnW-OuggoE
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sqcomp · 09-28-2012, 11:24 PM

AM - is it bad when I know this movie? I haven't seen it in years. Until now I had forgotten the names of the characters...

GAWD I'm old.

Sanding tonight. Talking with one of the best repair shops in the country about the P-01. They're having trouble finding the service manual for the "P" series decks (P-01 & P-99). I may be forced to send this back to my source in Japan. Funny...I type this sitting at a sushi bar just having finished some good Tako, Ebi & tempura...maybe I'm channeling some mojo.

^short hair worked. These things are SEXY! They're nice and heavy too. No resonance messing with the pillars. Perhaps I'm excited because I could plug them in right now and make things right...I need to get a filler coat on these then more sanding. Tomorrow night...

^First layer of primer. Here in a few, I'll go back into the garage and sand more. Oh yeah, there is two layers of filler that went under this that I didn't take pics of. I was to busy applying and sanding. You can see in that bottom picture that there's a high point in the filler just above the mid. I'll sand that down by hand and get any other pinhole blemishes. The I'll prime agian. After this priming, I'll get some texture and go from there.

Cleaning up around the garage...I finally found my backup battery keys to my alarm. This means I can disconnect the battery and take the airbag out so that I can replace the steering wheel with a leather wrapped Scion tC piece...In a week or two I'm thinking. I'll have the new processor in by then along with the backup source.

derickveliz2 · 09-30-2012, 11:17 PM

New aiming looks like each mid is looking at each other, is that right?

D.

sqcomp · 10-01-2012, 02:06 AM

They're at the same height but no, they're aimed about 15 degrees up from horizontal. This aiming gives me rock solid imaging and height. The tweeters in the pillars are good for width, height and worrying less about crossover points. The "blend" will be easier than with the tweeters separated as they were this year. I could have it sounding off tonight if I pleased but...I want absolute control before info this again...and with the P-01 acting all bejiggity, I'd rather not risk it.

I also put a couple layers of high build primer on the pillars as well. Lots of work gets done when I don't have a wife hanging around. The "to do" list becomes very basic and simple.

Edit: I got my paws on the service manual for the P-99RS...anyone who started this post that needs one in the future knows now where to get it and give it to a repair center if needed. My P-01 is going out the Pyramid Audio tomorrow morning. Within the month, I'll be back up working again.

derickveliz2 · 10-01-2012, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

They're at the same height but no, they're aimed about 15 degrees up from horizontal. This aiming gives me rock solid imaging and height. The tweeters in the pillars are good for width, height and worrying less about crossover points.

Do you mean Tweeters in Sail Panels?

D.

derickveliz2 · 10-01-2012, 11:20 PM

I just order another port system for my experiment with 2 i6SW's!

D.

sqcomp · 10-02-2012, 01:14 AM

Yes, I misspoke, the sail panels, not the pillars.

derickveliz2 · 10-02-2012, 01:48 AM

Some Left and Right EQ...

More tuning soon...

D.

sqcomp · 10-02-2012, 02:15 AM

I know this exercise...We don't center match in the mid and sub bass regions simply because at 175 Hz and below, the bass isn't localizing for the most part. I'd imagine this is going to change drastically when the mids are back on top. I have to make a mic jig and find a 3055 I can play with locally...

The sub however is down 9 dB

You can also see I had to pump up the output. My gains are pretty much off...I suppose I could change that though.

derickveliz2 · 10-02-2012, 09:09 AM

I enjoy doing several passes at different conditions for example....
parked with engine off, parked with engine in idle and then driving at about 70 mph.

T/A

X-over Points

trdvvti07 · 10-02-2012, 10:31 AM

So heres the thing. 2 -400w amps pushing 2- 12" Terminator subs each independent of one another. My trunk rattles... my gas door rattles... looking through my rearview is like having michael j fox holding it. So what do I do to eliminate the vibration? without compromising sound quality? 2-subs-4-mids-4 voice....

sqcomp · 10-02-2012, 11:29 AM

D,

throw this T/A in and give it a try just for the hell of it (I think this is CM not IN IIRC)...and actually you can reduce the sub too I think. I was just playing with that part:

derickveliz2 · 10-04-2012, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trdvvti07

So heres the thing. 2 -400w amps pushing 2- 12" Terminator subs each independent of one another. My trunk rattles... my gas door rattles... looking through my rearview is like having michael j fox holding it. So what do I do to eliminate the vibration? without compromising sound quality? 2-subs-4-mids-4 voice....

My guess is that you won't, but you could minimize it with Mat and more Mat and several layers of Mat...

Then last resource is... turn down the gains to mach your other speakers.

D.

derickveliz2 · 10-04-2012, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

D,
throw this T/A in and give it a try just for the hell of it (I think this is CM not IN IIRC)...and actually you can reduce the sub too I think. I was just playing with that part:

I will, but looks odd...

Inside the Pioneer world 155.39" (max number in TA) means (0) zero delay, and what I do is to delay the closest speakers to my left ear to get the signal rich both ears at the same time. That is why you see my right Mid at 155.39" and every thing goes from there.

If I had the sub in the trunk that would be the furthest speaker and will get 0 (zero) delay AKA 155.39"

0" (zero) would be like to delay at maximum the left side Mid and Mid/Bass

D.

09-27-2012, 02:45 AM	#2197
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	It's a two seat Ultimate class IIRC. Nice little xA from Vince. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

09-28-2012, 12:48 AM	#2198
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Rebuild time! The next pillar will be done tomorrow night. Then I take the night off on Saturday...Sunday is for sanding, and short hair. Monday is for finishing the pillars and readying for texture. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

09-28-2012, 12:56 AM	#2199
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Awesome, but mine will stay down in the kick area, physics tell me they belong there, I'm sure you and SB know some thing I don't know, of course I'm just an enthusiast and you guys are the Pros! Very interested how works for you, and all we know, this is the never ending story. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

09-28-2012, 01:14 AM	#2200
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I lied...I just finished the longhair of the right side as well... Lots of sanding to come. Indeed! The never ending story! __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

09-28-2012, 11:24 PM	#2202
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	AM - is it bad when I know this movie? I haven't seen it in years. Until now I had forgotten the names of the characters... GAWD I'm old. Sanding tonight. Talking with one of the best repair shops in the country about the P-01. They're having trouble finding the service manual for the "P" series decks (P-01 & P-99). I may be forced to send this back to my source in Japan. Funny...I type this sitting at a sushi bar just having finished some good Tako, Ebi & tempura...maybe I'm channeling some mojo. ^short hair worked. These things are SEXY! They're nice and heavy too. No resonance messing with the pillars. Perhaps I'm excited because I could plug them in right now and make things right...I need to get a filler coat on these then more sanding. Tomorrow night... ^First layer of primer. Here in a few, I'll go back into the garage and sand more. Oh yeah, there is two layers of filler that went under this that I didn't take pics of. I was to busy applying and sanding. You can see in that bottom picture that there's a high point in the filler just above the mid. I'll sand that down by hand and get any other pinhole blemishes. The I'll prime agian. After this priming, I'll get some texture and go from there. Cleaning up around the garage...I finally found my backup battery keys to my alarm. This means I can disconnect the battery and take the airbag out so that I can replace the steering wheel with a leather wrapped Scion tC piece...In a week or two I'm thinking. I'll have the new processor in by then along with the backup source. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 09-30-2012 at 10:48 PM.

09-30-2012, 11:17 PM	#2203
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	New aiming looks like each mid is looking at each other, is that right? D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

10-01-2012, 02:06 AM	#2204
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	They're at the same height but no, they're aimed about 15 degrees up from horizontal. This aiming gives me rock solid imaging and height. The tweeters in the pillars are good for width, height and worrying less about crossover points. The "blend" will be easier than with the tweeters separated as they were this year. I could have it sounding off tonight if I pleased but...I want absolute control before info this again...and with the P-01 acting all bejiggity, I'd rather not risk it. I also put a couple layers of high build primer on the pillars as well. Lots of work gets done when I don't have a wife hanging around. The "to do" list becomes very basic and simple. Edit: I got my paws on the service manual for the P-99RS...anyone who started this post that needs one in the future knows now where to get it and give it to a repair center if needed. My P-01 is going out the Pyramid Audio tomorrow morning. Within the month, I'll be back up working again. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 10-01-2012 at 10:09 PM.

10-01-2012, 11:20 PM	#2206
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I just order another port system for my experiment with 2 i6SW's! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

10-02-2012, 01:14 AM	#2207
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Yes, I misspoke, the sail panels, not the pillars. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

10-02-2012, 01:48 AM	#2208
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Some Left and Right EQ... More tuning soon... D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

10-02-2012, 02:15 AM	#2209
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I know this exercise...We don't center match in the mid and sub bass regions simply because at 175 Hz and below, the bass isn't localizing for the most part. I'd imagine this is going to change drastically when the mids are back on top. I have to make a mic jig and find a 3055 I can play with locally... The sub however is down 9 dB You can also see I had to pump up the output. My gains are pretty much off...I suppose I could change that though. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

10-02-2012, 09:09 AM	#2210
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I enjoy doing several passes at different conditions for example.... parked with engine off, parked with engine in idle and then driving at about 70 mph. T/A X-over Points __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

10-02-2012, 10:31 AM	#2211
trdvvti07 Where's my crown? Drives: 07 self proclaimed TRD Sedan Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 11	So heres the thing. 2 -400w amps pushing 2- 12" Terminator subs each independent of one another. My trunk rattles... my gas door rattles... looking through my rearview is like having michael j fox holding it. So what do I do to eliminate the vibration? without compromising sound quality? 2-subs-4-mids-4 voice.... __________________ I am the obvious resolve to the age old question, "What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?"

10-02-2012, 11:29 AM	#2212
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	D, throw this T/A in and give it a try just for the hell of it (I think this is CM not IN IIRC)...and actually you can reduce the sub too I think. I was just playing with that part: __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

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