I am not getting 600km/tank :(

[tacsniper]

I just went through my 2nd tank of gas on the 3rd week, and I only got 460km on it... I just hit 1000km as well... is this normal or just my driving?

[uncleyaris]

driving for sure. I'm at 400 with a bar before half still. I average 46-49 mpg.

[Edd]

Originally Posted by PK198105

if so when stuck in traffick try using neutral to cover the short distances.

Stay in gear. Being in neutral is not only dangerous (you can't accelerate if you need to), but pointless. Let's say that if you were in 2nd gear at 1500RPM, DFCO shuts off the injectors, so that car is using NO fuel as long as you don't touch the throttle. Compare that to shifting to neutral, where you are using fuel to keep the car idling at about 800RPM.
Not to mention that unless you are going down a hill, it's probably going to make a piss all difference.
Stay in gear kids.

[Edd]

Oh sorry about that, I missed the "stuck" bit, I was thinking you meant rolling down a hill or something. Yeah, of course. If you are in a jam and stationary, go to netural and put on the handbrake. To save fuel here, don't creep every 1/2 metre that moves, wait for at least a 2-3 car's lengths, then start moving slowly, because if you have to brake and stop, you have just wasted more fuel.

[Pars]

Originally Posted by Edd

Oh sorry about that, I missed the "stuck" bit, I was thinking you meant rolling down a hill or something. Yeah, of course. If you are in a jam and stationary, go to netural and put on the handbrake. To save fuel here, don't creep every 1/2 metre that moves, wait for at least a 2-3 car's lengths, then start moving slowly, because if you have to brake and stop, you have just wasted more fuel.

In stop-and-go traffic, if everyone was waiting 3 seconds to go, after the traffic came to a stop, the effect would be accumulative and nobody would make it home for dinner. Best thing to do is make-up the 2-3 car length after you get moving and then start to drive like the truckers, they're constantly on the move, even in stop/go traffic.

If you have a manual transmission and in slow moving traffic (that hasn't come to a completely stop), there's more opportunity to capitalize on the DCFO, instead of idling in neutral while completely stopped.

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by Edd

To save fuel here, don't creep every 1/2 metre that moves, wait for at least a 2-3 car's lengths, then start moving slowly, because if you have to brake and stop, you have just wasted more fuel.

That's good advice, and what hypermilers attempt to achieve in traffic like this. Our term for it is "Driving Without Brakes", or DWB, meaning we try to maintain constant forward movement by picking the right speed to let us not use our brakes at all, or come to a stop. The whole idea is to conserve momentum.

[stuffy]

That's good advice, and what hypermilers attempt to achieve in traffic like this. Our term for it is "Driving Without Brakes", or DWB, meaning we try to maintain constant forward movement by picking the right speed to let us not use our brakes at all, or come to a stop. The whole idea is to conserve momentum.

this also lessens the "chain-reaction" effect for the cars behind you that happens when people are stomping on their brakes every 2 seconds.

it's amazing to me how people drive in stop and go traffic, if they just left 3-5 car lengths in front of them they would be applying the brakes much less often and traffic would actually start moving if everyone did this.

[brickhardmeat]

Originally Posted by stuffy

this also lessens the "chain-reaction" effect for the cars behind you that happens when people are stomping on their brakes every 2 seconds.

it's amazing to me how people drive in stop and go traffic, if they just left 3-5 car lengths in front of them they would be applying the brakes much less often and traffic would actually start moving if everyone did this.

what irritates me is when i drive this way, leaving about 3 car lengths in town in traffic, people constantly slide in becasue there is room and they think they are going to go somewhere faster

I also get tailgated a lot driving this way

[stuffy]

inevitably, the odd stupid person will change lanes in stop and go traffic and enter into the space that you leave,
but i find that it works just fine in heavy traffic.

[Quatro]

Originally Posted by brickhardmeat

what irritates me is when i drive this way, leaving about 3 car lengths in town in traffic, people constantly slide in becasue there is room and they think they are going to go somewhere faster

I also get tailgated a lot driving this way

True.
They're like "I was running late to work but now that I am 9 feet closer, I'll make it just in time"

[morrisd]

im at 540kms and my 4th bar went at 520kms. still on the dealer tank

[Pars]

Originally Posted by BailOut

That's good advice, and what hypermilers attempt to achieve in traffic like this. Our term for it is "Driving Without Brakes", or DWB, meaning we try to maintain constant forward movement by picking the right speed to let us not use our brakes at all, or come to a stop. The whole idea is to conserve momentum.

If you're trying to save gas, wouldn't it make more sense to get the car moving, as soon as possible, once the traffic starts to move? And once you're on the move, slow it down a bit to make up the 2/3 second gap (which is easy to do since most drivers tend to be too hard on the gas pedal during stop/go driving).

Why sit and let the car idle unnecessarily (in neutral) for 2/3 seconds when it could be moving? Not only are you wasting gas, but you're delaying traffic for everyone else that's behind.

[hans_fh]

I can get 33-34MPG for city with A/C (Average on 25 m/h)

[hystria]

Originally Posted by uncleyaris

driving for sure. I'm at 400 with a bar before half still. I average 46-49 mpg.

full answer should be driving AND traffic. I'm getting less than 30 MPG in city driving with many lights/stops while shifting at 2000-2500 rpm. Over 40 MPG on highway at 70 MPH.

[stuffy]

I can get 33-34MPG for city with A/C (Average on 25 m/h)

i get about 33 mpg in the city, but i don't do very much driving during rush hours.