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Old 07-03-2007, 08:35 PM   #1351
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Thanks for that, can anyone in Aus confirm if you got a fuel consumption computer?
Sorry Edd, I accidentally deleted my reply to your Post #1351 in the course of editing. When it comes to computers, I am all thumbs. My reply now reappears as Post #1353. Also, I only said "may". I am not absolutely sure that Australian Yari have trip computers showing the cars' fuel consumption. It is very smart of you to ask for confirmation from other members.

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Old 07-04-2007, 03:25 AM   #1352
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Re: Post #1352.
Sorry Edd! Just visited the websites of Toyota in Australia and Great Britain. Can't find hints about the availability of trip/onboard computers for the Yaris. Probably they are not offered.
Here are the sites:
http://www.toyota.com.au/yaris/
http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyo...all&id=YA3_exp

May be our knowledgeable members can supply information on this subject.
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Old 07-04-2007, 03:32 PM   #1353
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just achieved 41 mpg (us) on my latest tank, almost entirely highway driving, probably an average speed of 110 km/h.
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:01 PM   #1354
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just achieved 41 mpg (us) on my latest tank, almost entirely highway driving, probably an average speed of 110 km/h.
That's not bad at all for normal driving! May be just a little too fast though!
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Old 07-04-2007, 10:21 PM   #1355
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That's not bad at all for normal driving! May be just a little too fast though!
lol, yeah, i figure i could have done better if i'd kept it at 100,

but like you say, it was essentially normal driving, and a lot of it in heavy traffic (401 holiday weekend traffic)
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:19 PM   #1356
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We had a cool couple days and I didn't use the AC much at all and ended up getting my highest combined mileage yet...43.3 MPG!
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Old 07-04-2007, 11:54 PM   #1357
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We had a cool couple days and I didn't use the AC much at all and ended up getting my highest combined mileage yet...43.3 MPG!
What's your average mph at cruise speed?
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Old 07-05-2007, 06:20 AM   #1358
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What's your average mph at cruise speed?
I'm not sure because I drive about 40/60 city/hyway. The only time I had used it for a long trip where it was all hyway miles was three months after I bought it and I averaged 40mpg but that was with about 400 pounds of gear thrown in.
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Old 07-05-2007, 06:24 AM   #1359
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guys cars r meant to be driven not pushed, i drive 110-120 and i still get great mileage, whats the point of buying a car if you will be driving it at 70 -90 on the highway, just buy a bus pass same experience. now dont get me wrong,to each his own , im not here to tell you how to drive, but i find some of you are taking this gas saving to an extreme. you buy a car for the conveinence , comfort and time saving , not to save on gas otherwise you would just need a bicycle , no gas used now thats a saving. That said enjoy your Yariss Echos and other awsome cars that dont guzzle that i think is enough also im not telling you to break speed limits and laws, just go with the flow. Thats my 2 cents (damn i wont have enough for the next fill up lol)
I'm not doing anything extreme really. I cut my driving back from 65-75 mph to 55-65 mph. I get on the interstate, set the cruise and just chill out. Because I'm not driving 75-80 mph I don't have to deal with soccer moms dragging ass in the fast lane and stressing out because people won't get out of my way. And the amount of time I lose by slowing down isn't even noticeable.
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:26 AM   #1360
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guys cars r meant to be driven not pushed, i drive 110-120 and i still get great mileage, whats the point of buying a car if you will be driving it at 70 -90 on the highway, just buy a bus pass same experience. now dont get me wrong,to each his own , im not here to tell you how to drive, but i find some of you are taking this gas saving to an extreme. you buy a car for the conveinence , comfort and time saving , not to save on gas otherwise you would just need a bicycle , no gas used now thats a saving. That said enjoy your Yariss Echos and other awsome cars that dont guzzle that i think is enough also im not telling you to break speed limits and laws, just go with the flow. Thats my 2 cents (damn i wont have enough for the next fill up lol)
well, like you say, to each their own.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:04 PM   #1361
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I'm not sure because I drive about 40/60 city/hyway. The only time I had used it for a long trip where it was all hyway miles was three months after I bought it and I averaged 40mpg but that was with about 400 pounds of gear thrown in.
Given that, you are getting stellar mileage!

I bought the Yaris for the fuel efficiency as my daily commute car (56 miles roundtrip @65 mph = 39.5 mpg). I wanted the fuel economy and to reduce my carbon footprint. I have a 2001 turbo volvo (S60-T5) as well as my old 1981 Turbo Volvo. The S60 gets 25 on the highway and 21-ish in the commute. The old '81 was getting 20 avergage in the commute but required premium fuel. I didn't want to put the miles on the '01 so enter the Yaris! The cost savings have been tremendous and the conservation is a big plus.

In another thread, there was a comment on conservation. It is funny to see a single person in a 2.5 ton SUV commuting to work gettting 13-15 mpg average. I know some of the newer models get closer to 20 but we are getting double that.

We will all face the prospect of dwindling resources, and I submit that it feels pretty good doing my part now. That's just my editorial two-cents worth. I still think the car is a blast to drive.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:07 PM   #1362
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This really cracked me up yesterday: I was watching The Goodbye Girl, a 1977 film, and in the film, one of the characters is describing a Subaru, saying that it gets 39 mpg hwy and 29 city! What!? Isn't it remarkable that 30 years ago, cars were getting essentially the same mpg that our Yaris gets now? You would think that in the passage of time that we would have figured out how to put together a car that gets 50+ mpg without having to resort to a hybrid engine. Unbelievable.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:15 PM   #1363
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This really cracked me up yesterday: I was watching The Goodbye Girl, a 1977 film, and in the film, one of the characters is describing a Subaru, saying that it gets 39 mpg hwy and 29 city! What!? Isn't it remarkable that 30 years ago, cars were getting essentially the same mpg that our Yaris gets now? You would think that in the passage of time that we would have figured out how to put together a car that gets 50+ mpg without having to resort to a hybrid engine. Unbelievable.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:46 PM   #1364
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Welcome to the CAFE debate! Try not to get so pissed off at the AAMA that you feel the need to blow something up.
hey bailout you have to compensate for the subaru's engine back then.. 1977 its probably has a small engine 1.3l -1.6 its under 73hp .. it may be accurate that that cars gas mileage could be close to ours.. but its got no hp..its hp to weight ratio probably keeping that car on the slow side...just my thoughts but im sure others disagree....
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:01 PM   #1365
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i've heard people say that the fuel back then was more effecient and of better quality,

i have no idea if there is any merit to this theory, just throwing it out there.
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:15 PM   #1366
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I think Marcus is right that our Yari are way more powerful than the 1977 Subaru, despite that the latter also enjoyed almost equally good fuel economy. In other words, if we compare engines back in circa 1977 with engines of today on an equal power output basis, today's engines should prove a lot better in terms of fuel economy.

In addition, I am not sure but chances are that though the 1977 Subaru enjoyed good fuel economy, it nevertheless did not have an ultra low emission engine and is therefore less environmentally friendly.

Also stuffy, though I am not absolutely sure, I believe as you indirectly suggested, fuel back in 1977 could probably produce more mpg, the main reason being the presence of lead content therein, which apart from anything else, like its effect on octane properties, is a lubricant(http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/gen99615.htm). However, lead is not good for the environment. But that is another story.
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:38 PM   #1367
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Plus factor in that a 1977 Subaru was, is, and always shall be a cheap piece of shit. LOL!
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:42 PM   #1368
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right, it's all about the engine size and HP because actual cars weight way more than 30 years ago. but despite more powerful engines, nobody makes full use of it since people almost never drive past 4000 rpm. give me a 80 hp Yaris with a more nervous engine - I'll be happier with it
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