Fuel Economy

[rick996]

Originally Posted by malibuguy

i wanna know how you guys are getting low 40s...i literally have to drive the crap out of mine to get low 40s...

So do I, even as far of using the A/C only going downhill when in DFCO. I don't know what to do to get more.

[why?]

Originally Posted by malibuguy

i wanna know how you guys are getting low 40s...i literally have to drive the crap out of mine to get low 40s...

Originally Posted by rick996

So do I, even as far of using the A/C only going downhill when in DFCO. I don't know what to do to get more.

Think about hypermiling. Then do it, with zero regard to safety or speed minimums or anything else.

The top few guys here drive like 99.99% of people would never even dream of, never mind actually want to.

It is unrealistic for most people in most situations, as 1 lives in an extremely rural area, and another drives through extremely mountainous regions every day.

Getting over 40 mpg is a great achievement in this car without modifications.

[rningonfumes]

What do you mean zero regard for minimum speeds? or Safety?

I can break 45mpg without a thought. I drive in a relatively populated suburban area with relatively flat ground. I'm not showing off the 45. 45 was what I got before I knew anything about hypermiling. It's the number I hit when I first got the car. And 45 is what led me to googling everything up, that and at the time Bryan (up north) was posting rather consistently. I don't remember his handle- he is the one who drives in the mountains.

If you're driving while pretending that there is a CHP Officer watching your every move, ie within the law, you will break 45.

Lastly I do understand that people in more colder regions have more trouble. So make it 40 for you guys.

*gets off his soap box.

[TLyttle]

We have nothing BUT mountains around here, still mileage is fine. I don't hypermile, my only concession to FE is higher pressure in the tires.

Another problem is the BS factor; not us, but them. Anyone driving another make of vehicle that claims our FE is likely cheating or lying; either way, depend on their claim being untrue. NOBODY in our neighbourhood is getting as good FE as we are.

If you aren't getting the mileage you expected, either there is something wrong with your car, or your driving techniques, simple as that.

[sickpuppy1]

I have my tires set at 40psi and on the highway I do right at 70 sometimes a little less, sometime more. I even have a sub in the trunk (OK,its a 8" one, but still the box and amp and such weight 20+ pounds) and an amp for the fronts too. The only area that I see I do different than I used to, is around town. I am very conscious of how I take off at a light and acceleration in general. I take it very easy on the pedal. "Smooth as butta" The egg between foot and pedal kinda driving. I think any small car can do much better when driven like that. Remember...all those drivers with V6 and V8's have lots of torque on the low end. We dont, so if you are trying to stay up with them, your mileage takes a bigger hit since our litte gutless wonders have to work much harder to stay up with the pace. They are loafing while ours are working harder, percentage wise. I say, let them do their thing and I'll do mine. I figure I'll end up passing them up anyways since they'll be stopping at the pump much more often. I could hit 45mpg or higher probably if I slowed down on the highway some more, but I choose not too. Maybe some fill up I'll try to do no higher than 65 and see what happens. But that, for me would be hard....

[yaryarbing]

I quickly learned that the most effective means of breaking the hurdle from low 40's mpg to high 40's mpg was speed. I get better mileage when I quickly (but not too quick!) accelerate to cruising speed (speed limit) and maintain, with uphill climbs as the only exception. Uphill requires a soft foot and a reduction in speed, depending on the grade of the climb. When I drove too conservatively, afraid of accelerating to get to cruising speed, I could not break above the low 40's for mpg. It takes some short term sacrifice of fuel to get to the most FE gear and speed to maximize overall mpg.

Scangauge or similar real time mpg device is a must.

No cheating, no below minimum mph driving, no rolling stops through intersections, no safety violations.

Eastern Maryland is anything but flat. Rolling hills abound. It's all about taking advantage of the terrain given.

I drive an AT sedan and am able, with vigilance, to maintain high 40's MPG. I make it a fun game and don't take it too seriously.

[malibuguy]

i just got my 5th tank that i averaged 50+ mpg on & that was with A/C use

[devinlamothe]

I don't know WTF happened but my last tank I got 45.7MPG. That was with racing around town like a mofo and also using A/C.

I did recently switch to a K&N filter and also used Gumout ... but I don't think that could change my mileage that much. Before this I was getting around 35MPG all the time.

[malibuguy]

^ enjoy! hahaha

[why?]

Originally Posted by rningonfumes

What do you mean zero regard for minimum speeds? or Safety?

I can break 45mpg without a thought. I drive in a relatively populated suburban area with relatively flat ground. I'm not showing off the 45. 45 was what I got before I knew anything about hypermiling. It's the number I hit when I first got the car. And 45 is what led me to googling everything up, that and at the time Bryan (up north) was posting rather consistently. I don't remember his handle- he is the one who drives in the mountains.

If you're driving while pretending that there is a CHP Officer watching your every move, ie within the law, you will break 45.

Lastly I do understand that people in more colder regions have more trouble. So make it 40 for you guys.

*gets off his soap box.

It was especially aimed at STC, who admits he drives 45 mph on roads with 65 mph speed limits, in an extremely rural area, which he says has almost zero traffic.

But anyone that consistently gets 45+ mpg in this car drives like few would even know how to, never mind want to. Y'all drive slower than everyone else, and that is simply the truth. I am simply explaining to people who think these are fake numbers.

Now that is your choice, and I congratulate you on getting great gas mileage. I've hit 44 mpg. I know what it takes. I also know 99% of the population simply has no interest in driving like that. I know I don't anymore. I get 36-37 mpg consistently and I am fine with that.

All you need to do is read what some of the hyper milers write on their boards to know they don't drive safely. They take perverse joy in being road hazards, and twistedly justify it by saying they are more important because they are doing it for great gas mileage. Bragging about driving half the speed limit on highways and the like is not safe driving, no matter how you cut it.

[malibuguy]

^ um fuck off cuz i'm a hypermiler & i'm not a road hazard & shit i'm getting 50+ doing usually 10 over the speed limit

don't pigeon hole the rest of us cuz one guy drives stupid

now i'll admit i'll drive slower sometimes if there is no traffic, but usually i'm with traffic, or passing them

[STC]

Originally Posted by why?

It was especially aimed at STC, who admits he drives 45 mph on roads with 65 mph speed limits, in an extremely rural area, which he says has almost zero traffic.

But anyone that consistently gets 45+ mpg in this car drives like few would even know how to, never mind want to. Y'all drive slower than everyone else, and that is simply the truth. I am simply explaining to people who think these are fake numbers.

Now that is your choice, and I congratulate you on getting great gas mileage. I've hit 44 mpg. I know what it takes. I also know 99% of the population simply has no interest in driving like that. I know I don't anymore. I get 36-37 mpg consistently and I am fine with that.

All you need to do is read what some of the hyper milers write on their boards to know they don't drive safely. They take perverse joy in being road hazards, and twistedly justify it by saying they are more important because they are doing it for great gas mileage. Bragging about driving half the speed limit on highways and the like is not safe driving, no matter how you cut it.

Yeah, my 200 mi area in central PA is very rural. I drive at least 50 MPH in 65 MPH Interstates and 45 to 50 MPH in 55 MPH Interstates. The 50 MPH is the legal national limit on 65 MPH Interstates. On State rural road speed limits of 40, 45, 50... I drive the limit. When I drive to the bigger cities of Allentown, Harrisburg, Scranton, Reading, Philly, Pittsburgh... I do drive at the speed limit when I'm in the city vicinity. I rarely drive to the cities. All my friends live in cow pasture towns of central PA...

I'm very conscious with my surroundings. I'm a hypermiler, but the techniques I follow in no way jeopardizes mine or others safety on the road. I've never done hypermiling techniques of shutting the car off while driving. That is dangerous to yourself and others. It is all common sense driving. Mind you, very very easy driving....


I just got another 50+ MPG filling the tank from 'click' to 'click' this morning. The 50 + was with Exxon gas. I filled up with Shell this time. I'm taking two rural trips this weekend... we'll see if I can make 50+ again?

Gas Tank mile increments (ethanol gas used):
1st Bar drop (8/8) > 120 mi (120)
2nd Bar drop (7/8) > 70 mi (190)
3rd Bar drop (3/4) > 55 mi (245)
4th Bar drop (5/8) > 55mi (300)
5th Bar drop (1/2) > 70 mi (370)
6th Bar drop (3/8) > 65 mi (435)
7th Bar drop (1/4) > 65 mi (500)
8th Bar drop (1/8) > 0 mi (500)

Tank total : 500 miles
Fuel used: 9.700 gallons
MPG: 51.546

Cheers!

[Hershey]

41.4 m.p.g. calculated w/ the '08 sedan auto . ECO read 39.9 m.p.g. . Like it to show lower overall average , that way we know it's doing better than what the ECO displays .

[ecc_33]

im getting around 42mpg with the A/C blasting. im happy cause i drive fast

[Idahotom]

Now that winter and winter fuel is gone, I had my first tank of 45 plus, 45.97 to be exact, going by the same pump at the same station, real gas BTW. 5-sp.

[malibuguy]

i had a great tank going

then i got stuck in some bullshit traffic-light inspired traffic when i went to the junkyard the other day...& got a 50.47 my last tank, i was fucking pissed I know i was on a 53 maybe 54 tank on that one all my mileage per fuel levels were 15-20mile more than usual

this new current tank is ruined cuz i've been driving like a jackass

[sickpuppy1]

While not as good as yours. I was enthused about the mileage from this weekend. Went to lake of the Ozarks and got 43.6 mpg on the way odwn and 46.6 on the way back. both new records for me. 2010 sedan. 2 overweight adults with luggage and coolers doing 65-70 most of the time.
Had about 90-100m miles of 2 lane blacktop that was slower, but also twisty turning too,(love my rear sway bar,lol)

[Woodsman]

Did a mileage check on Saturday. Less than ideal conditions.
2010 3dr hatchback with 12,000 km ( just under 7,500 miles)
Aprox. 90% highway. First half of the trip in a heavy rain storm average speed 80 kph (50 mph). Return trip mostly sunny with average speed of 110 kph (just under 70 mph).
About 700 lbs of passengers & cargo.
Total distance - 405.8 km or 252.2 miles.
Fuel used - 23.681 litres/5.21 Imp gals/6.21 US gals.
Results - 5.8 litres per 100km/48.41 mpg(Imp)/40.31 mpg (US)