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Old 07-28-2015, 12:17 PM   #199
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Hey guys new to the mod world all the way from barbados , but i have a question , does anyone know if a 1zz engine can bolt into my Ncp13 which is the Vitz model right hand drive from japan and if any fabrication needs to be done and what would they be . thanks.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:31 PM   #200
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ive got vitz with 1szfe, i am willing to swap the engine
the available engines in my country is 1nzfe, are you people in favour of that ? it comes bolt on, no issues
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yes thats fine the rs versions have in the 1nz-fe
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:33 PM   #201
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Hey guys new to the mod world all the way from barbados , but i have a question , does anyone know if a 1zz engine can bolt into my Ncp13 which is the Vitz model right hand drive from japan and if any fabrication needs to be done and what would they be . thanks.
The frame needs to be cut for clearance on the pulley side of the engine.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:58 PM   #202
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hey i'm looking to do a swap i have in a 1nz-fe and i want to put in the 1zz did you have to modify anything or was it just a bolt in ? or did your echo come with that engine?
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Old 07-28-2015, 01:00 PM   #203
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The frame needs to be cut for clearance on the pulley side of the engine.
hey can you explain more ? cut the frame how ? and can my 5spd 1nz-fe gearbox fit on without changing bell housing ? can you give a me a step by step??
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Old 07-28-2015, 01:27 PM   #204
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The motor is bigger so you have to make room for the belts an pulleys. You would have to change bell housing on the transmission too.
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Old 07-28-2015, 02:18 PM   #205
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The motor is bigger so you have to make room for the belts an pulleys. You would have to change bell housing on the transmission too.
so what would be better to do one time ? a 1zz or 2zr i need your knowledge if they both are the same amount of fabricating i would go big one time
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:47 PM   #206
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The 1ZZ was never an option for any NCP chassis as far as I know. I don't know much about the 2ZR as far as size but it was an option in 2006+ Yaris so it might be a little shorter than the 1ZZ.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:12 PM   #207
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Let me chime in 1zz is possible with no cutting to fit it, but not a great swap cuase of the fabrication involed and wiring rather drop a 2zz.... The 1zz tranny or housing is required. Cutting the chassis is required if you are planning on a 6spd...
The 2ZRFE is almost a drop in swap and you can use the stock tranny...


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Old 07-28-2015, 06:16 PM   #208
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Let me chime in 1zz is possible with no cutting to fit it, but not a great swap cuase of the fabrication involed and wiring rather drop a 2zz.... The 1zz tranny or housing is required. Cutting the chassis is required if you are planning on a 6spd...
The 2ZRFE is almost a drop in swap and you can use the stock tranny...


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Let's make sure we're on the same page here. They're talking about a fist gen chassis.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:20 PM   #209
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Let's make sure we're on the same page here. They're talking about a fist gen chassis.

Ooooh! ok So it's the other way around, 1zz wiring is similar to the first gen as the ECHO we get here in PR and its the almost the same demensions 2zz swaps are around


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Old 08-01-2015, 11:53 AM   #210
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Thanx for the advice so far guys it was helpful im going to do the swap and turbo charge but can i put on a 6spd box without and fabrication?
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Old 01-24-2016, 09:49 PM   #211
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Bringing this thread, back from the dead...
in all honesty, I've read about a RAV4 2ar being used to churn out some serious hp in a TC (approx. 800) anyone consider a 2ar swap into one of our tiny cars? its a 2.5 so it'd be kinda cramped. just a seriously considered idea.
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Old 02-17-2016, 01:38 PM   #212
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in theory the 1.8L 2ZR-FE from the European-spec Yaris TS (and also the same engine as used on the new Corolla and Scion xD), as I highly doubt Toyota would have two totally different bodies for each engine. But, with "just" 130hp, it's not exactly worth the swap... unless it can be built up to much much higher levels, but I don't think that has been proven yet....

Looks like this has been confirmed and well documented:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56031
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Old 03-17-2016, 08:03 PM   #213
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What would be needed in order to do a b18c or k20 swap?
I like the idea of having a honda engine with a LSD transmission.
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Old 03-17-2016, 08:27 PM   #214
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I would really love to see an 8ar-fet swap....that would be awesome

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Old 03-17-2016, 08:31 PM   #215
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From looking over a buddies EG hatch wth a k20 w/6speed, you'd have to get custom everything. Notch the frame rails, new mounts, new exhaust manifold, radiator relocation, new axles, new throttle pedal, modified fuel system, modified harness to fit Yaris cluster etc.
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Old 03-17-2016, 08:49 PM   #216
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What would be needed in order to do a b18c or k20 swap?
I like the idea of having a honda engine with a LSD transmission.
First, ditch the B-series. It spins the wrong direction. K-series spin the correct direction.

Buy a donor K-series. My suggestion is a cheap Base RSX, Ep3, Element, or CRV. You'd be best off with the 02-03 Ep3 as their axles are smaller and fit 4x100 spindles so should be easier to adapt, not to mention their wiring harness is easy to use and adapt. If you need a Helms service manual for wiring, have it in .pdf form,

1. Custom motor and transmission mounts
2. Pre 2000 Honda aluminum half radiator
3. Donor K-series car (for engine, tranny, wiring, immobilizer, matching ecu)
4. K-tuned or other aftermarket shifter box and cables for easy floor mount.
5. Cable operated and modified throttle pedal OR a donor drive by wire ecu and wiring to adapt to the Yaris.
6. Kpro for a drive by wire application OR a 02-04 CRV, 02-05 Ep3, or 02-06 RSX for cable operated throttle.
7. Spindles and strut adaptation from the donor OR custom axles for the Yaris spindles.
8. PATIENCE, MONEY, AND TIME.

If you insist on boost a K20a3 is the cheapest swap and can handle 300whp for s VERY LONG TIME, but one the torque gets over 300wtq k20a3s have a tendency to bend rods. K20a2, K24a2, K24a2, K24a4, K20z1, K20z3, and K20a (02-06 ITR or JDM Ep3R) can all handle LOTS power with the only problem being compression and detonation risk on the higher compression K20a2, K20z1, K20z3, and the K20a (11.5:1).

I'm sure I'm forgetting things. This is just off the top of my head stuff as a Moderator of Ephatch.com.
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