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TLyttle · 10-29-2008, 01:48 PM

I'm sure that there is no point in trying to debate Gene W. here regarding either unions or health care; clearly his experiences supersede mine, regardless of what mine may be. Suffice to day that as a long-time Steelworker, the only real difficulties I had with the shops I worked in had to do with Management who would not listen to the workers in the shop. During my career (retired now) I was able to tell how long a company would last simply be watching Management's attitudes, union or non-union. Normally, well-run companies did not require unions.

I, too, have seen the US medical system, and indeed the experience of dialysis, as described, sounds barbaric, yet I have heard of no such barbarism here in Canada. I worked with handicapped children in a Government facility, and the concentration was on the health and progress of the children, rather than budgets, managerial paperwork, or (!) profits. There is NO PLACE for profit in a medical system; making money off the disadvantaged is a blasphemy of the worst type IMHO.

I did meet a vet in the US who had a trunkful of medical equipment that he had to buy, then take to the hospital so that he wouldn't have to buy the stuff again from his pension money. Another blasphemy in my mind.

I saw my first Japanese-built car in 1962 or so, at an auto show. I knew right then that the US auto industry was in trouble, not because the car was inexpensive, or even offered good performance. The workmanship was superb, the innovations outstanding; better than anything out there on the floor, American or European. In my opinion, very little has changed since then, and all the anecdotes here on the Yaris site kinda prove that.

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10-29-2008, 01:48 PM	#33
TLyttle Drives: 07 Yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Keremeos BC Posts: 986	I'm sure that there is no point in trying to debate Gene W. here regarding either unions or health care; clearly his experiences supersede mine, regardless of what mine may be. Suffice to day that as a long-time Steelworker, the only real difficulties I had with the shops I worked in had to do with Management who would not listen to the workers in the shop. During my career (retired now) I was able to tell how long a company would last simply be watching Management's attitudes, union or non-union. Normally, well-run companies did not require unions. I, too, have seen the US medical system, and indeed the experience of dialysis, as described, sounds barbaric, yet I have heard of no such barbarism here in Canada. I worked with handicapped children in a Government facility, and the concentration was on the health and progress of the children, rather than budgets, managerial paperwork, or (!) profits. There is NO PLACE for profit in a medical system; making money off the disadvantaged is a blasphemy of the worst type IMHO. I did meet a vet in the US who had a trunkful of medical equipment that he had to buy, then take to the hospital so that he wouldn't have to buy the stuff again from his pension money. Another blasphemy in my mind. I saw my first Japanese-built car in 1962 or so, at an auto show. I knew right then that the US auto industry was in trouble, not because the car was inexpensive, or even offered good performance. The workmanship was superb, the innovations outstanding; better than anything out there on the floor, American or European. In my opinion, very little has changed since then, and all the anecdotes here on the Yaris site kinda prove that.