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Old 11-08-2008, 08:18 PM   #8
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actually, time to recalculate. the 6x9 does have more surface area than a 6.5 oval. however, while
the driver surface is bigger allowing more air to be moved, it does not change the problem that all oval speakers suffer from...the fact that the driver is mis shaped effects sound quality especially when the speaker is being pushed hard.

round speakers are ussually the way to go, but, you ussually get more bass "hit" out of a 6x9 than a 6 round on cheaper speakers because of the larger radiating surface...same with subs. a more expensive 8" sub may sound better than a cheaper 15", but odds are in pure bass, the 15 will hit harder.

we do agree on one thing, that rear fill should be minimised, and its why I have always run them off of deck power and fader moved far forward.

but, we disagree on another. I belive that while rear sound should be minimised, it does improve sound quality to have it there, but ambient. and I disagree on bass or midbass from the rear deck. if you have subs the impact is already slamming you from the rear, and you want midbass hitting you from the front...most midbass will be obliterated or drowned out in the back if you are runned anything decent or bigger than a couple 10 inch drivers.

low bass is almost non directional, which is why subs cut off at 40 hertz or less work fine in the trunk, but the higher up the frequency, the more directional the sound. mid bass should be shifted as far forward as possible, to give the appearance of the "concert" you spoke of.

cutting a midbass driver off at 1k will most likely fry it fast, and your sound quality will be very foul. at 300hz deeper vocals can be heard, and a mid bass driver playing above that will sound very muddy normally. also, at that point, your ear can easily pick up direction of the sound, so the whole point you made about making rear fill disappear is moot.

I think you and I agree on some of the fundamentals of sound, but, we have entirely differant methods of getting it so it would seem! either way, I am not a expert by any means, and I base my opinions on my experiences and what others have said or i have read or seen.
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