Under the hood of a 2012 Yaris

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Originally Posted by daf62757

In 5 to 10 years, see how well these other cars hold up. Past performance is a good indicator of future performance!

there are now plenty of hyundais an even domestics on the road that are quite fine after 10 yrs and 200K miles.

going by what you are saying, nobody should have ever bought japanese makes because in the 70's and early 80's their dependability and durability was abysmal.

honda and toyota are counting on peple just buying off their reputation. look at the quality of the interiors of their latest bread and butter cars as of late...the newest corolla and the newest civic. some of the cheapest interiors in the class, both of which have had some fit and finish issues, something you used to rarely see in japanese makes.

believe me, i felt the same way as you about toyota for a long time. i just eventaully came to the realization that toyota and honda still make good dependable cars, but that their competition has changed so dramatically that their monopoly on reliability is a thing of the past. once i opened my eyes to that there were so many choices out there.

i know some peple will cling to the past and brand X is all they wil ever buy. but, when the only argument in favor of a car like this new yaris is that its worth the cost of other cars in this class because its a toyota, i cant swallow that anymore.

does anyone believe toyota stuck that old engine in the yaris because it was depoendable? they just couldnt afford a more refined advanced engine in that car at this time. im not saying its not dependable. it is a very good engine, just past its prime compare to some of the competition offering larger, more powerful and yet more fuel efficient engine.

i understand the problems japan has with the value of the yen, earthqualke, etc...but as a consumer those cannot be my problems.

now, would i buy a 2012 yaris as a second car. yes, but not at the same price as an accent, which has proven reliable in its previous generation and is now dramatically better.

if you are going to build the cheapest subcompact out there, just price it as such. thats really the gripe for me. at $13k i would not have any issues about the awful interior quality of this yaris because that is what you can reasonably expect at that prce point.