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Old 08-07-2014, 10:01 PM   #10
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needs to start near $10k, like it did when it came out.
I'm assuming (from a U.S. perspective only, of course) that you mean when what we call the ECHO first came out ? The base pice on the 07 5M USDM 3-door was at least 11k+, IIRC.

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The strength of the Yen is the main thing that is killing Yaris sales.
I agree.



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Direct Injection, a 6 speed manual and a modern at least 6 speed automatic. Automatic stop start when you come to a light. All tech that would help gas mileage and should come on all modern vehicles. Other things not mentioned, but that is blamed on all auto manufacturers who have focused on hp so much and have not really tried for better gas mileage.
Good points. The only one of those that matters to me personally is the 6-speed manual (which of course the Yaris has in other markets ).



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federally mandated because apparently we are too stupid to be able to actually drive ourselves.
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So you get 37 mpg on the highway and think that is good? It is not. I get around 45 driving in stop and go traffic on roads with a max speed limit of 50 mph. And I don't mean to pick on you specifically, but a modern automatic transmission could probably get what I do without a sweat.
What percentage or fraction of your ability to do the above is attributable,do you think, to the fact that you've removed your rear seating area, and other items . Even if I could squeeze a couple more MPG out of an automatic over the same car with a manual, I'd still want the manual (as long as the model in question isn't really heavy) knowing I could push the car and compression start it in a pinch if I needed to do that.

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They don't want to let everyone know it could get gas mileage just as good if not better than a Prius.
Yep +++ .
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