what would u pay

[Toyotech]

Originally Posted by tacsniper

spill the beans what are you trying to invent here... ;)

not inventing. my job to teach and assist/install a hydrogen assist technology with a few other tweaks (not a toyo tech anymore :) ) ... last two vehicles had a large impact in milage gains....over 100% gain. a 100k mile plymouth breeze got 77mpg and a 5 speed 95 f150 ended up getting 33mpg...it was 13mpg to start...lol. the breeze will drop to 72-73 after a little more tuning. excessive lean starting right now with poor map voltage..

oh yea, 03 camry 2az is getting 60+mpg right now.

[brickhardmeat]

wow, cool job

[foober]

Basically its just getting something to ignite in your combustion chamber. It can be any gas that explodes. Folks for years have come up with other than gasoline run engines. But as we know they disappear.

[bnther36]

I think I read something about this already being done. It was a Canadian that built some sort of Hydrogen injection system and they were going to put it on trucks. I don't remember the MPH gains being as high as what toyotech is going for; I think it was more around 15%. Whatever happened to the technology I don't know. But I remember that there were some real concerns about the safe storage of the hydrogen. I'll see if I can't dig something up.

[bnther36]

Here's the link on that Hydrogen injection. "http://www.chechfi.ca/"
I'm just a little curious though, if it is a proven technology then why isn't it mainstream?

I'm still holding out for a PHEV

[sherryberry]

Originally Posted by bnther36

Here's the link on that Hydrogen injection. "http://www.chechfi.ca/"
I'm just a little curious though, if it is a proven technology then why isn't it mainstream?

I'm still holding out for a PHEV

Because the oil companies don't want you to know about it!! it's a conspiracy!!!

[Toyotech]

Originally Posted by foober

Basically its just getting something to ignite in your combustion chamber. It can be any gas that explodes. Folks for years have come up with other than gasoline run engines. But as we know they disappear.

the company has had many success in the past and we are rushing to get ready for what is to come in the next few months. they haven't gone anywhere. and with dealership interest... i really don't see it gone anytime soon.

Originally Posted by drifto

wow where did you find this nifty job, im getting a little bored of honda. would like to be a "former" honda tech too... :)

actually they found me. i was kinda suprised.

Originally Posted by Edd

Fuel cells are ok if the hydrogen is split from water by powering it in reverse with solar. It sure takes a hell of a lot longer to produce the hydrogen than to burn it.
Methanol/Ethanol fuels are pretty good too.

its a hydrogen/oxygen mixture pulled from distilled water and added to the fuel mixture. this is only part of the kit though.

Originally Posted by sherryberry

Because the oil companies don't want you to know about it!! it's a conspiracy!!!

u laugh... but im in the middle as a believer

Originally Posted by tacsniper

will this void the warranty?

depends... they would have a very hard time proving a problem

Originally Posted by BailOut

I call bullshit. It takes so much energy to produce the hydrogen, and it takes so much weight to produce the protection of the highly explosive fuel cell that the overall position is that you use so much more energy and resources to make it work that it is not worth it whatsoever.

highly explosive? u mean implosive...and its just a quick pop with no damage. uses so much more energy?... i said assist. so getting 70+mpg... having to add water here and there doesn't make it worth it?

Originally Posted by bnther36

Here's the link on that Hydrogen injection. "http://www.chechfi.ca/"
I'm just a little curious though, if it is a proven technology then why isn't it mainstream?

I'm still holding out for a PHEV

because its been held back and constantly being perfected. theres more to this then the kit then what u have posted. i also didn't read everything from that company.

you will be seeing the infomercial's hit tv at the end of this month.

[bnther36]

Well I guess we'll have to wait and see. I don't have any problem paying $900 or so if it'll take money away from the 'oil monster'. I must admit that I am somewhat skeptical...there never seems to be any shortage of mileage miracles. But I will hold off on the verdict.
Keep us posted Toyotech. If a dealer is willing to install the gizmo and it won't void any of my warrenty, then I would be willing to consider it.

[tacsniper]

Originally Posted by bnther36

Well I guess we'll have to wait and see. I don't have any problem paying $900 or so if it'll take money away from the 'oil monster'. I must admit that I am somewhat skeptical...there never seems to be any shortage of mileage miracles. But I will hold off on the verdict.
Keep us posted Toyotech. If a dealer is willing to install the gizmo and it won't void any of my warrenty, then I would be willing to consider it.

+1

[Toyotech]

Originally Posted by bnther36

Well I guess we'll have to wait and see. I don't have any problem paying $900 or so if it'll take money away from the 'oil monster'. I must admit that I am somewhat skeptical...there never seems to be any shortage of mileage miracles. But I will hold off on the verdict.
Keep us posted Toyotech. If a dealer is willing to install the gizmo and it won't void any of my warrenty, then I would be willing to consider it.

i completely understand.. everyone is skeptical.

i'll be looking locally to see if a tri-state yaris owner would let the students do an install on there car.. it would be free install/free kit... even free oil change and possible trans service. lol. only catch is needing it for a few days. 2 days for the soon to be trainers/students for the install and another day for me and my partner in the diag area too further test and make sure everything is good without any drivability issues.

i think once CARB is approved getting the dealerships to cover the installs will be much easier.

i will be putting this kit on my corolla too :) ...but with a mild tune not for full efficiency. i like power a little power adder too, im sure my fiance can deal with 60mpg or so

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by Toyotech

not inventing. my job to teach and assist/install a hydrogen assist technology with a few other tweaks

I call bullshit. It takes so much energy to produce the hydrogen, and it takes so much weight to produce the protection of the highly explosive fuel cell that the overall position is that you use so much more energy and resources to make it work that it is not worth it whatsoever.