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Old 08-16-2007, 05:00 PM   #1
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Exactly, the American automotive industry wants one thing, "MONEY". From the Corporation head, the Unions, and the workers who want more money to do less work.

And it is also North American peoples fault also, we want everything for nothing.
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You saying you don't want money? You don't want more money for less work? I'm pretty sure the Japanese public would ALL love to get more money for less time working, as well as cheaper prices. I agree with a good portion of this thread, but this makes no sense...

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The US Government is selling us all out. Who is there for the working man? The professional guy? Nobody....greedy corporations would rather take our jobs and send them off shore....it's capitalism gone awry...they forgot about us "family" members....mom and dad give the job's in their store to outsiders, and their kids go wanting....but hey, nothing personal, right? Just business. :-(

I'm all for open economies, free trade and all that, but within limits, within a time frame....
As for this, it sounds hypocritical to me. Greedy corporations are out for one thing, profit. That is not capitalism gone awry, that is capitalism at it's most pure. Get your product produced for the cheapest price, and your profit increases. Corporations have the responsibility to share holders or owners, not to "family" members...

If you are for open economies, get used to the outsourcing. It is a fact. Until North Americans can provide the same products/service for nearly the same price, outsourcing is going to happen. Capitalism has a great way of sorting the winners from the losers if given the chance...
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:14 PM   #2
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??????

You saying you don't want money? You don't want more money for less work? I'm pretty sure the Japanese public would ALL love to get more money for less time working, as well as cheaper prices. I agree with a good portion of this thread, but this makes no sense...



As for this, it sounds hypocritical to me. Greedy corporations are out for one thing, profit. That is not capitalism gone awry, that is capitalism at it's most pure. Get your product produced for the cheapest price, and your profit increases. Corporations have the responsibility to share holders or owners, not to "family" members...

If you are for open economies, get used to the outsourcing. It is a fact. Until North Americans can provide the same products/service for nearly the same price, outsourcing is going to happen. Capitalism has a great way of sorting the winners from the losers if given the chance...
Your ignorance is astounding.

There is Capitalism. Then there is wreckless Capitalism. Sorry you do not know the difference.

You have the dillusion that capitalism is all good.

You sadly don't seem to understand that Capitalism must be tempered with what is good for the country as a whole, otherwise it is no worse for the people then socialism, or communism.

You forget that most of the world's standard of living is 1/10 of ours, so if our company's off shore our work to them, guess what is going to happe to us?

OUR STANDARD OF LIVING GOES DOWN, DOWN, DOWN...

so easy for you to spew dillusion when you have a good job.....but what will you say when your industries off shores enmasse to another country?

You will, not might, YOU WILL agree with me if and when that happens.

And to further show your ignorance, you seem to think that it is okay for a company to move production to the lowest bidder, in order to make more $$.. It's not that simple, nor easy.

Better for a company to put quality as number 1....in the long run this will guarentee the highest profits...

You think too much about short term gains...think long, long term...
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