My thoughts regarding this forum

[kimona]

One of the dumbest discussions on the forum!

[jdium]

Originally Posted by kimona

One of the dumbest discussions on the forum!

It got you to post...

Originally Posted by Imagine

At what expense? Three or 4 HP for about $1000. That in my book is a waste of money. In some cases it even reduces power. It changes power delivery.. Some freer flowing exhausts may give you a couple max power gains at 6k rpms, but reduce power in the lower RPMs where most daily driven cars spend most of the time. IMO, that stuff is nearly pointless unless it's supporting a NA build, or some sort of forced induction. Other wise, those parts are more for look and sound.

I know a lot of people wont agree with me, but thats my opinion. I've been in the import scene for almost 10 years now. I've been there, done that, and learned my lesson. I'm not saying that it's wrong. It's your car, do as you'd like I don't think any less of anyone for doing it. It's just not my thing anymore. I'd rather put money in quality suspension parts, and good tires then save for a turbo or something in that area. It's all personal preference.

Someone actually has some common sense! Trying to get 3 more hp from a 104 hp engine is like a 400 lb chick losing 8 lbs...Nobody can tell... IMO, unless you are doing a drastic change, like an engine swap or a build/turbo, there is not much improvement to be had. For my money, I'm going to spend it on making this car out handle a cheetah...

Originally Posted by nsmitchell

No, I was agreeing with you. Real turbos kick ass! I was just making fun of the little fake turbo device. 200HP is not rice! Racing a Mustang 5.0 in a Yaris and winning is not rice, thats the BEEF!

Ya, real turbo's kick ass. But personally, I'll hop in my Mustang 5.0 if I need to race another Mustang 5.0. That way I still have a warranty and 40 mpg's with the daily driver...

[ToyotaTEch21]

To me it works like this:

Molded Veilside body kit= Tuner
Ebay fiberglass body kit, unpainted for 2 years held on with wood screws= rice

Big spoiler on a Supra=Tuner
Big spoiler on a K car thats on backwards= rice

Carbon fiber hood with a scoop= tuner
A stick on scoop from pep boys thats falling off= rice

Now I'm not hating on the people who buy the cheap parts. If thats what you can afford go for it. I am however hating on the hacks who mod their cars, do a shitty job and go around acting like they are chip foose. I really dont care what parts people put on their cars. But its the cars that come into the shop where I work that have poorly installed parts. (wiring thats a fire hazard or after market wheels without hub centric rings installed, Fart can mufflers supported with a coat hanger) These People are the ricers to me.

Chino said something about he himself being a ricer. I say bullshit Chino, you're a Tuner.