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TLyttle · 10-26-2008, 10:29 PM

No shouting match intended here, my point is that it happens for both management and union, and it will eventually lead to the demise of the US (and Canadian) auto manufacture. If the union wasn't watching management come to work in Jaguars etc, they wouldn't fight for the crap that management gets in their contracts. Either way, the US auto industry loses.

IMHO, any and every civilised country should have a "socialist" health system. We are all human beings.

Lump sum payments or monthly, a retiree MUST be recognised for his service to the company, no flaw there as I see it.

Lastly, unions would disappear completely if management was fair. My company was approached a few times by unions to unionise it. Each one of them left without success, simply because they had nothing to offer our guys that they didn't have already: we looked on that as "good management". OTOH, I have spoken to managers (worked for a few) whose attitude towards workers had to do with contempt, purre and simple. The bigger the company, the less likely one is to find compassionate, intelligent management. I know what it takes to keep employees, and the US system fails to recognise it. Most Japanese companies do.

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10-26-2008, 10:29 PM	#21
TLyttle Drives: 07 Yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Keremeos BC Posts: 986	No shouting match intended here, my point is that it happens for both management and union, and it will eventually lead to the demise of the US (and Canadian) auto manufacture. If the union wasn't watching management come to work in Jaguars etc, they wouldn't fight for the crap that management gets in their contracts. Either way, the US auto industry loses. IMHO, any and every civilised country should have a "socialist" health system. We are all human beings. Lump sum payments or monthly, a retiree MUST be recognised for his service to the company, no flaw there as I see it. Lastly, unions would disappear completely if management was fair. My company was approached a few times by unions to unionise it. Each one of them left without success, simply because they had nothing to offer our guys that they didn't have already: we looked on that as "good management". OTOH, I have spoken to managers (worked for a few) whose attitude towards workers had to do with contempt, purre and simple. The bigger the company, the less likely one is to find compassionate, intelligent management. I know what it takes to keep employees, and the US system fails to recognise it. Most Japanese companies do.