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Old 11-13-2008, 07:54 AM   #1
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I wouldn't care about these wasteful people if the responsible people didn't have to bail them out when their lives fall apart.

I will feel no remorse if we decide to buy a house and get it for cheap because some idiot was living beyond their means.

Unfortunately when people waste gas, it causes us all problems, but all you can do yourself is not be part of the problem.

55 mpg is definitely possible, even with an AT. With a MT I would think you could break 60.
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Old 11-13-2008, 08:21 AM   #2
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60 MPG with the 1.5 MT gasser!? Man I’d love that. With my hilly commute and me having troubles keeping the 45 mpg tanks terrain is going to dictate what I can achieve. I’m thinking 50 is about all I will be able to manage. Not that I won’t try for more but that might be just out of my range.

I did have almost a 55 mpg average, for 50 mile trip, home a couple times by going 20 miles out of my way for shopping. That I could improve on by traveling it a couple times but it would actually use more gas overall to get the better number. I just picked to live in a crappy mpg commute location.
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:30 AM   #3
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60 MPG with the 1.5 MT gasser!? Man I’d love that. With my hilly commute and me having troubles keeping the 45 mpg tanks terrain is going to dictate what I can achieve. I’m thinking 50 is about all I will be able to manage. Not that I won’t try for more but that might be just out of my range.

I did have almost a 55 mpg average, for 50 mile trip, home a couple times by going 20 miles out of my way for shopping. That I could improve on by traveling it a couple times but it would actually use more gas overall to get the better number. I just picked to live in a crappy mpg commute location.
Yeah, I wouldn't think 60 is attainable unless the person driving has a lot of refined technique and the weather and commute allows for extreme driving, but I bet it's easy to get if those criteria are met.

In my experience, anything in the mid to high 40's is not attained without a lot of discipline, so even on my relatively easy commute, you'd be doing great with those numbers.
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Old 11-13-2008, 08:27 AM   #4
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I wouldn't care about these wasteful people if the responsible people didn't have to bail them out when their lives fall apart.

I will feel no remorse if we decide to buy a house and get it for cheap because some idiot was living beyond their means.

Unfortunately when people waste gas, it causes us all problems, but all you can do yourself is not be part of the problem.

55 mpg is definitely possible, even with an AT. With a MT I would think you could break 60.
I always get the feeling that my attempts to conserve are being trumped by the addition of another person who has no care in the world about economy because, from what I have noticed, there are a billion bad (or inefficient) drivers to every one of us. Sucks... I just hope that more and more people catch onto the trend every time gas gets high... because they do not care when it gets low again. For them, it is back to mashing the foot on the gas.

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Old 11-13-2008, 10:33 AM   #5
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I always get the feeling that my attempts to conserve are being trumped by the addition of another person who has no care in the world about economy because, from what I have noticed, there are a billion bad (or inefficient) drivers to every one of us. Sucks... I just hope that more and more people catch onto the trend every time gas gets high... because they do not care when it gets low again. For them, it is back to mashing the foot on the gas.

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I know exactly what you mean, but maybe think of it this way. Those bad drivers will be wasting resources whether you conserve or not. So you're offsetting their waste.. at least a little bit.

People will whine and complain about anything, but never change their behaviour to come to a solution. If everyone drove like you a lot of the current problems wouldn't exist. All you can do is lead by example, even if your students on the road are rude and dangerous
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:53 PM   #6
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I know exactly what you mean, but maybe think of it this way. Those bad drivers will be wasting resources whether you conserve or not. So you're offsetting their waste.. at least a little bit.

People will whine and complain about anything, but never change their behaviour to come to a solution. If everyone drove like you a lot of the current problems wouldn't exist. All you can do is lead by example, even if your students on the road are rude and dangerous
This sounds like much of the apathetic Americans of today. They want to save the world, but do not want to lift a finger (exception to change the channel). They want to help the disabled, but only do so with cash. They would look the other way if a disabled individual wanted to be their friend. We all want to, but only a few do.

Oh, and I feel like the number of people conservatively driving is increasing, but some people will never change, so problems will always exist...

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Old 11-13-2008, 03:46 PM   #7
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500snaks. I’m near Raleigh and make a few trips to the Outer banks every year traveling on 64. I’m no pro hypermiler but am getting 44 MPG tanks with my commute: country rolling roads, highway and city.. Do you perhaps have a boat and go fishing? Maybe we can trade!
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:05 AM   #8
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500snaks. I’m near Raleigh and make a few trips to the Outer banks every year traveling on 64. I’m no pro hypermiler but am getting 44 MPG tanks with my commute: country rolling roads, highway and city.. Do you perhaps have a boat and go fishing? Maybe we can trade!
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Tampa is a busy city near my school, and I do not lie in my calculations. You should look at my last couple of tanks... Usually pull 45 in the city. Coming home today I did almost 49 MPG, but it is only a 10 mile one way from school to the apartment. Oh, and Florida is as flat as a 10 year-old's chest, and I have easily gotten over 50 on the highways... that is with no tricks, just driving slower. Oh, and I will take the offer, but will drive in reverse the whole week to make the MPG numbers more believable.

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Woody: I am about 45-60 minutes from the obx. Let me know when you come this way.

Drummerboy: Do the run out and refill method and see if thats still an accurate number. Maybe you are not re-filling to the same level and therefore throwing the numbers off.
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:11 PM   #9
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Drummerboy: Do the run out and refill method and see if thats still an accurate number. Maybe you are not re-filling to the same level and therefore throwing the numbers off.
The run out method would be more true, but is bad for your fuel pump because running out of gas causes this to overheat. If this is the method you are using, I would suggest changing the ways...

It is possible that I am not refilling to the same levels, but based on all of the tanks I have filled and the various gas stations I have been to over time, systematic and random error would likely be accounted for over time. Besides, my numbers cannot be off by very much... even with my current methodology.

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Old 11-14-2008, 09:12 AM   #10
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I know exactly what you mean, but maybe think of it this way. Those bad drivers will be wasting resources whether you conserve or not. So you're offsetting their waste.. at least a little bit.

People will whine and complain about anything, but never change their behaviour to come to a solution. If everyone drove like you a lot of the current problems wouldn't exist. All you can do is lead by example, even if your students on the road are rude and dangerous
My other vehicle is an 04 dodge ram SRT10, 500 hp, V10, 505ci(8.3 L) and gets 9 city and 11 hwy on premiun only. Is that what you are refering to?
Am I offsetting my wastefulness by driving my yaris?

I changed my behaviour by buying and driving the yaris to commute to work.
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