Paddle Shifting (for MT)

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by echo_hrs

Mastershift makes these....I've been looking in to them...

http://www.mastershift.com/

Cheers

that website makes me sad..

first, it's only for transmissions with the stick ON the trans (RWD setups)

second all they show you is pretty pictures of the paddles.

here's my work so far



my initial design will be for MT only.

here's my chicken scratches from last night..



and my truth table.. gotta integrate this into the programming now.. my brain hurts



i1-i4 are cylinder position feedback inputs (so the PLC knows what gear you're in)

i5 is "upshift" input from the paddles
i6 is "downshift" input from the paddles

Q1-Q4 are outputs for the valves that will control the cylinders

[custom Lftback]

Originally Posted by Tamago

that website makes me sad..

first, it's only for transmissions with the stick ON the trans (RWD setups)

second all they show you is pretty pictures of the paddles.

here's my work so far



my initial design will be for MT only.

here's my chicken scratches from last night..



and my truth table.. gotta integrate this into the programming now.. my brain hurts



i1-i4 are cylinder position feedback inputs (so the PLC knows what gear you're in)

i5 is "upshift" input from the paddles
i6 is "downshift" input from the paddles

Q1-Q4 are outputs for the valves that will control the cylinders

great work!

[WolfWings]

Originally Posted by Tamago

that website makes me sad..

first, it's only for transmissions with the stick ON the trans (RWD setups)

second all they show you is pretty pictures of the paddles.

Wrong on both counts actually. :-)

Their Street Manual All Products page shows good images of the actual modules that bolt in place of the stock shifter assembly to control the existing cable-drive stuff.

*ALL* their systems are designed to work with cable-driven transmissions actually.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by WolfWings

Wrong on both counts actually. :-)

Their Street Manual All Products page shows good images of the actual modules that bolt in place of the stock shifter assembly to control the existing cable-drive stuff.

*ALL* their systems are designed to work with cable-driven transmissions actually.

Originally Posted by mastershift

The MasterShift™ Manual Shifter supports Tremec TKO, Tremec T-56, Tremec TR-3650, RBT-5 (formally the ZF), and RBT-6. Coming soon! Hardware for the C5/C6/Z06!

which of these is a cable shift manual transmission?

either way, the intent of my setup is to do away with cables ;)

[WolfWings]

Originally Posted by Tamago

which of these is a cable shift manual transmission?

either way, the intent of my setup is to do away with cables ;)

They're specifying that they support some of the transmissions that a lot of 'universal sequential shifter kits' don't, because the stock transmission is a rod-linked assembly or true top-mount shifter. Those are the transmissions that they specifically have adapter modules designed and tested for to link to their cable-shifter two-servos-in-a-box brain, and pre-programmed settings for said brain-in-a-box. And said vehicles are expensive enough to justify a $1900-$2400 paddle-shifter kit. :-)

The MasterShift kit comes with a programming cable and software CD for a reason: It's for setting the distances the box actually has to shift the cable-linkages for the gate-selector and syncro-selector inputs, and specifying paths and routes for the shifting to follow.

And any cable linkage can be replaced with a hydraulic linkage, witness modern brakes versus the old cable-powered brakes used as recently at the 80's. Hell, many vehicles with in-board brakes (brakes mounted beside the differential, bolted to the chassis instead of part of the wheel assembly, Jaguar's and Hummer-1's mostly) can have hard brake line going all the way to the brake calipers.

They'd use hydraulics more places, but it's a lot more expensive to design and prone to maintenance headaches than a length of steel rope inside a plastic sheath, which is almost all a transmission-cable is since it doesn't have to deal with large forces like brakes do/did.

Didn't mean to come off as knockin' on the work you're doing, it's looking awesome so far. :-)

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by WolfWings

Didn't mean to come off as knockin' on the work you're doing, it's looking awesome so far. :-)

yeah i'd only poked around their site slightly til now. they do seem to cover their bases but like i said my real issue is the actual cables being in the way of the downpipe so doing away with them and replacing with DOT airbrake line i can mount well away from the heat is the idea here..

i'm jealous of their paddle controls :(

[WolfWings]

Originally Posted by Tamago

yeah i'd only poked around their site slightly til now. they do seem to cover their bases but like i said my real issue is the actual cables being in the way of the downpipe so doing away with them and replacing with DOT airbrake line i can mount well away from the heat is the idea here..

i'm jealous of their paddle controls :(

They do offer the paddle shifter sets by themselves on their store page. Including the wireless ones that you just strap to the steering wheel, though you do have to change the batteries in those periodically. I'd go for that approach myself, since I have a leather sewn-on steering wheel cover I can just re-sew over the binding straps to hide them on the wireless units.

If nothing else, if you could figure out how to be electrically compatable with their paddle-shifter sets it'd make it one less part to deal with being the only source of yourself if/when you sell these later.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by WolfWings

They do offer the paddle shifter sets by themselves on their store page. Including the wireless ones that you just strap to the steering wheel, though you do have to change the batteries in those periodically. I'd go for that approach myself, since I have a leather sewn-on steering wheel cover I can just re-sew over the binding straps to hide them on the wireless units.

If nothing else, if you could figure out how to be electrically compatable with their paddle-shifter sets it'd make it one less part to deal with being the only source of yourself if/when you sell these later.

if i read that right, the basic paddle setup is $70? that's my price range lol

called them... their website is shit.. that's $70 for a PADDLESHIFT UPGRADE.. sold separately they want $375.

stay tuned for something made by me for $70 lmfao