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Old 02-10-2009, 11:14 PM   #1
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Nice to see this thread back. Good job.
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:44 PM   #2
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how does the A/C work in an electric car?
I wish I knew more about how stuff works on this car. The company that built it was very proprietary about it's components. I posted what was in the manual on the EV Album website. I am taking it to it's first OEVA (Oregon Electric Vehicles Association meeting tomorrow night maybe they can tell me more?

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Scroll compressor can be spun with an electric motor. Both heat and AC make a significant dent in run time on EV's.
The heat is made with radiator fluid via a insta hot heating mechanism that circulates it through the existing heater core.

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Yeah that's the thing with all of this stuff for me...for one it's very counterproductive as a consumer at the moment because even though you don't have to pay for gas, how long would it take me to recoup the costs of paying $13k for my Yaris new in fuel? Like 20 years?

I applaud the move in the direction...but it's still way to early for me to adopt. As is probably the case for most people right now.
The thing that is counter productive is the oil companies and the big three auto or small three auto corporations conspiring to keep any technology from being massed produced that is counter productive to the revenue stream they receive from pedaling oil and ICE to the masses.

This car is very inexpensive to build. The lithium-ion polymer batteries comprise approx 20,000 dollars of the conversion.

I drive a 4 wheel drive, 4 door Silverado for my commute before this Yaris. At 3 dollars a gal it will take me 7 years to break even. The batteries don't just die but do loose range.

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So you really paid $42,000???

Let's see, that's about a $28,000 premium over a standard Yaris.

At today's gas price of $1.90/gal, $28K could buy 14,736 gallons of gas.

Averaging around 36 mpg in a regular Yaris (as most people do), that $28K worth of gas will take you....

530,496 MILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OUCH.
What great is I don't have to fund a war from two sides. My gas so to speak is produce domestically.

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Yeah, but in terms of early adoption that's actually not that terrible a price. And gas will likely be right back up at $4 a gallon gain this summer anyways.
You are right. I know of people in the OEVA that have spent 20,000 dollars and built the car them selves with acid lead batteries. They have a usable range of 20 miles as you should not deplete acid lead batteries more than 50% or you cut the life span of them. This also is with a used car valued at approx 5000.00 dollars.

I figured why not spend 21,000 more and have a new more usable car that will go 100 miles per charge and I didn't lift a finger. Having said this I do admire the guys who build there own.

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This is just like the Prius thread I had before the hack. The initial price out weighs any possible economic recovery. He said he hopes it lasy 1500 cycles or 150,000miles. Then it will need new batteries. Plus any other servicing it may need. Hes says he has glitches. Hmm. $42k later as well jeez I know hes trying to be eco friendly and make a statement and its a cool concept but my god this was a poor purchase for how much it cost you. A guy in the San Franscisco area did something similar to his car with much better results than what you are reporting. Either way its your money this was obviously an economic want and certainly not a need.
Perhaps the price right now out ways the economic recovery. Things change if batteries are massed produced and patents are not able to be purchased by Chevron-Texaco in order to be set on a shelf so they can sell more oil and gas prices rise which sooner or later is inevitable then this will be economically feasible.

You would have said that the first computers were a poor choice for how much they cost. The first computers were big, did little and cost much. Good thing someone early adopted them.


Please by all means provide me with a thread or site that says how the guy in San Francisco's car is superior. I would like that.

Talk about glitches. When I purchase my Silverado new in 05 the thing stranded me 3 times and would not start 3 more times at my house in the first 6 months. After the third time I told the service writer to replace the battery. He said what if that does not fix the problem? They were looking for a draw on the battery. Any way a few tows and rental cars later they did replace the battery. They called a week later and said they continued to bench test the battery and after a week the battery discharge on it's own. So it was a bad battery. They spent millions of dollars on refining the ICE cars and they still have plenty of glitches of there own. My electric yaris as never stranded me. I have pulled to the side of the hwy and rebooted the computer to get moving again but I fixed that when I nearly electrocuted myself.

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Nice to see this thread back. Good job.
Thanks Lazagna. This is fun.

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