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Old 09-18-2006, 01:38 PM   #1
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just some information for everyone on what i feel are the most important specs to compare when suspension shopping. if you don't like to read, see the cliff notes at the end.

cusco compact s spring rates
F:7k
R:3.3k
Non adjustable dampening
~$1200

HKS S-Compact
Spring Rates
F:5k
R:8k
30 way adjustable dampening
~$1900

Tein Basic
F:4k
R:3.1k
Non adjustable dampening.
~$950.00

As you can see the spring rates are very soft for the basics, cusco and hks are much more aggresive with their rates and the valving to go with it. In terms of comparing what is the best setup to get, I believe the Tein does not offer anything outside of height adjustability since the spring rates are no stiffer then what is found from Tanabe's springs, of which there will be a GF210 coming out with ~4k rates(it's out in Japan, it'll be out here). The cusco is your best performance related upgrade since the Tein would be purely cosmetic. For those that want something more trackable, the HKS would be your solution with the ability to fine tune your dampening for different course and driving situations. Of course at this time the HKS are not readily available in the states, I don't see HKS USA bringing this product over anytime soon as stockable inventory so you'll need to wait for it. The cusco and tein products will be stocked stateside, it just may take some time for the suppliers to gauge the correct inventory levels so expect backordered product in the beginning.

Cliff Notes:
Cusco compact S is probably best value at the moment.
HKS is tops for track use.
Tein Basic is purely cosmetic.
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Old 09-25-2006, 03:16 PM   #2
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Wow Looks great. Sure it rides nice also, but must be stiff ride.

John I would have thought teins would be adjustable also, surprised to see they aren't. So it's a basic coilover with no shock adjustments, and low spring rates? I'm not looking to upograde my yaris in performence, so maybe just a cosmetic upgrade would be better for me.
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Old 09-25-2006, 07:43 PM   #3
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just some information for everyone on what i feel are the most important specs to compare when suspension shopping. if you don't like to read, see the cliff notes at the end.

cusco compact s spring rates
F:7k
R:3.3k
Non adjustable dampening
~$1200

HKS S-Compact
Spring Rates
F:5k
R:8k
30 way adjustable dampening
~$1900

Tein Basic
F:4k
R:3.1k
Non adjustable dampening.
~$950.00

As you can see the spring rates are very soft for the basics, cusco and hks are much more aggresive with their rates and the valving to go with it. In terms of comparing what is the best setup to get, I believe the Tein does not offer anything outside of height adjustability since the spring rates are no stiffer then what is found from Tanabe's springs, of which there will be a GF210 coming out with ~4k rates(it's out in Japan, it'll be out here). The cusco is your best performance related upgrade since the Tein would be purely cosmetic. For those that want something more trackable, the HKS would be your solution with the ability to fine tune your dampening for different course and driving situations. Of course at this time the HKS are not readily available in the states, I don't see HKS USA bringing this product over anytime soon as stockable inventory so you'll need to wait for it. The cusco and tein products will be stocked stateside, it just may take some time for the suppliers to gauge the correct inventory levels so expect backordered product in the beginning.

Cliff Notes:
Cusco compact S is probably best value at the moment.
HKS is tops for track use.
Tein Basic is purely cosmetic.
haha...it was in this thread
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haha...it was in this thread
thank you those help a lot aswell. Would it be possible to use the tanabe nf210 springs along with the tein basic coils? I'd like the low spring rates tanabe offers, but the security of the afermarket shocks to be able to handle a droped vehicle. I don't won't to have the stock shocks die on me.
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cusco compact s spring rates
F:7k
R:3.3k
Non adjustable dampening
~$1200

HKS S-Compact
Spring Rates
F:5k
R:8k
30 way adjustable dampening
~$1900

Tein Basic
F:4k
R:3.1k
Non adjustable dampening.
~$950.00

Cliff Notes:
Cusco compact S is probably best value at the moment.
HKS is tops for track use.
Tein Basic is purely cosmetic.
I think the stock springs are 2.5K/2.2K At 4K in front, plus the drop (which "stiffens" even more the sway bar), the ride will be quite stiff, much more that the stock suspension... Tein is just fine for a a stiff street ride in addition to a quite improved handling...
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