2011 Toyota Yaris Hybrid

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by roxy1

thats why i have trouble getting excited over 40-50-60 mpg cars. it just wont make much difference from the 40 mpg a yaris can do now. i'll get excited when we can produce reasonably affordable vehicles that require no gasoline.

If I could go from 50 to 80 US mpg I would save $2 a day in gas and have to fill in gas every 13 days vs every 9. Those are significant numbers for me.

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

If I could go from 50 to 80 US mpg I would save $2 a day in gas and have to fill in gas every 13 days vs every 9. Those are significant numbers for me.

for every 10,000 miles, 50 mpg=200 gallons needed=$400
for every 10,000 miles, 80 mpg=125 gallons needed=$250

so, every 10,000 miles saves $150

to save $2/day in gas, you would have to drive 10,000 miles every 2 1/2 months ($2/day x75 days=$150), which means you drive 48,000 miles per year. most people arent putting anywhere near that kind of mileage their cars. for those that do, yeah, it could make a difference.

...and taking that 80 mpg vehicle another 30 mpg to 110 mpg would require 90.9 gallons, saving only $68 every 10000 miles. as was said, diminishing returns are a bitch.

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by roxy1

for every 10,000 miles, 50 mpg=200 gallons needed=$400
for every 10,000 miles, 80 mpg=125 gallons needed=$250

so, every 10,000 miles saves $150

to save $2/day in gas, you would have to drive 10,000 miles every 2 1/2 months ($2/day x75 days=$150), which means you drive 48,000 miles per year. most people arent putting anywhere near that kind of mileage their cars. for those that do, yeah, it could make a difference.

...and taking that 80 mpg vehicle another 30 mpg to 110 mpg would require 90.9 gallons, saving only $68 every 10000 miles. as was said, diminishing returns are a bitch.

You're applying American prices to a Canadian.

I use about 5 litres of gas a day.

going from 4.7l/100km to 2.9l/100km would reduce my daily cost of gas by close to $2 a day at current gas prices and by over $2 a day when the prices return to last summers highs that would be well over $2 a day.

50-80mpg might be not be significant enough for people in the US, but for many people in Canada and places like Europe, it's very significant.

The problem here isn't that it isn't significant enough of a return, the problem is that gas is too cheap in the US and that's a problem I cannot relate to.

**andI forgot that next July the Ontario Government is going to be adding the 8% provincial tax to gas, so that will make this change even more significant**

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

You're applying American prices to a Canadian.

I use about 5 litres of gas a day.

going from 4.7l/100km to 2.9l/100km would reduce my daily cost of gas by close to $2 a day at current gas prices and by over $2 a day when the prices return to last summers highs that would be well over $2 a day.

50-80mpg might be not be significant enough for people in the US, but for many people in Canada and places like Europe, it's very significant.

The problem here isn't that it isn't significant enough of a return, the problem is that gas is too cheap in the US and that's a problem I cannot relate to.

**andI forgot that next July the Ontario Government is going to be adding the 8% provincial tax to gas, so that will make this change even more significant**

of course, it would be a nice problem to have if we could be worried about getting ONLY 50 mpg.

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by roxy1

of course, it would be a nice problem to have if we could be worried about getting ONLY 50 mpg.

touche