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Airforce1 · 05-30-2009, 07:56 PM

Very nice.....i love the car but i cannot see myself driving a ford....haha i dont know why i just cant get over that

firebob · 05-30-2009, 08:04 PM

Ford stopped work on the Fiesta during the auto makers bail out. This was done because it was not a hybrid. As far as I know they are going to keep the door open to the money but they want the GM stuff worked out first. If they put money into a non hybrid it will nock them out of the money option.

Aclark
I think the E90 law started in 2007. I think this dropped the MPG from 40 to 35 mpg. By this time next year we till be driving E85 so it will drop one more time.

In the next 4 to 5 years I do not see a 4 wheel US car getting a better gas mileage then the Yaris unless it is a 3 cylinder, a hybrid, or high test gas.

mryaris · 05-30-2009, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firebob

I think the E90 law started in 2007. I think this dropped the MPG from 40 to 35 mpg. By this time next year we till be driving E85 so it will drop one more time.

I'm not sure what you mean by this, but I suspect you just mistyped. Right now E10 is the predominant fuel mixture (10% ethanol & 90% gasoline).........E85 can only be run in flex fuel cars and is 85% ethanol & 15% gasoline. I think you just got it backwards.....what you call E90 is actually E10, etc.

FWIW, we have always had oxygenated gas here in Colorado (at least as long as I've lived here/been driving). Originally it was MTBE, but that was phased out several years ago as it pollutes ground water pretty substantially, now ethanol has claimed the throne.

That said, I use E10 and have used E10/oxygenated gas in all of my cars since the mid-80's and have never noticed any appreciable drop in fuel economy. I average 37 MPG in my Yaris HB and hit 40MPG on my last tank.

As for the Fiesta.....it is a very nice looking car. I don't care much for Ford's either, but it is still a sharp car. I'll have to go check one out at the dealer. I happened to see one in Boulder on Memorial Day and wanted to get a closer look, but I was running a 10K race and stopping would have hurt worse than if I just kept running! :)

firebob · 05-30-2009, 10:12 PM

I’m not a chemist and don’t under stand it all…

So I have it backwards. We are currently using E10 right now but soon it will be replaced by E15. E85 is flex fuel.

I do know that ethanol is an oxygen additive and the older popular one was MTBE. Are they now using both now in some places?

I have tested gas right out of the hose from time to time and the largest amount of ethanol I have found was about 38% using one of these things.

Pitt Yaris · 05-30-2009, 08:41 PM

The interior is pretty awesome. That's one of the only thing the yaris lacks.

mr9865 · 05-30-2009, 09:57 PM

if you want to know more about the fiesta, here is a link to someone who got one to drive from ford here in the states. http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...d.php?t=198086

nemelek · 05-31-2009, 05:13 AM

If or when it gets here and I was in the market for a new car, I would take a look at it before blindely buying another Yaris.

GeneW · 05-31-2009, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vector9mm

First off, I love my yaris, but I average 34 MPG and for a small car that's not good. I just read about the Fiesta comming to the USA and it rocks. They say it should get a combined average of 40 MPG and has 120 HP and 112 lb. ft. of torque. To top it off it weighs 2,158. This thing ought to really scoot. I knew that this kind of car could be built to get near what the hybribs get in MPG. I'm not ready to ditch my Yaris but in a few years who knows. I predict that Toyota will make some improvements to the Yaris to keep up. Of course I would trust my Yaris over the Fiesta in reliability.

I'm sure it'll scoot, at least away from the Ford Dealership. Towards the dealership? Doubt it it'll scoot, more likely either tow or limp there.

Ford could screw up a baseball bat.

Gene

Bredayaris · 06-01-2009, 04:36 PM

Eeuhm the Fiesta is bigger than the Yaris for the liftback that is!
I've searched for the length Yaris: 149'' the Fiesta: 155.5''

But my brother's mother in law has the new Fiesta and she already has many problems with this car!!
The a/c unit doesn't work already and she has several other electronical problems with it!

Me and my boyfriend (isn't the English language egoistic ;-) ) had several Fords 2 times a Focus and i had a Escort but those were problem cars too..

ddongbap · 06-01-2009, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bredayaris

Eeuhm the Fiesta is bigger than the Yaris for the liftback that is!
I've searched for the length Yaris: 149'' the Fiesta: 155.5''

But my brother's mother in law has the new Fiesta and she already has many problems with this car!!
The a/c unit doesn't work already and she has several other electronical problems with it!

Me and my boyfriend (isn't the English language egoistic ;-) ) had several Fords 2 times a Focus and i had a Escort but those were problem cars too..

Loving the elitest actions here.

ddongbap · 06-01-2009, 06:53 PM

I'd totally rock a Fiesta.

doublewam · 06-08-2009, 08:10 PM

Looks like the new Fiesta will be a great looking car. However, it's a Ford. Depreciation on it will bum you out and I don't think it will prove to be anywhere near as reliable as a Toyota. As for me, if it isn't a Honda or a Toyota, I'm done with it. Every Ford, Chrysler, & GM product I have ever owned has essentially been 'done' as a reliable automobile after 100,000 miles (some before). My Toyotas and Hondas have been 'miracle machines' in comparison.

For the record...cars I have owned...

Fords
2 Tauruses (both junk at 100,000-120,000 miles)
1 Windstar (also junked at 120,000 miles)

Chrysler
PT Cruiser ($2000 in warranty work, about $1000 out of pocket repairs, by 45,000 miles the AC was only working when going at least 55, it would often go dead when idling, the power steering made sounds like an elephant dying on cold days, other misc. issues. Traded this car in for the Yaris.)

Volkswagon
New Beetle (nightmare, was constantly back at the dealer with problems, traded it in at 20,000 miles for a Toyota Tacoma)

Dodge
Caravan (still have it, only 36,000 miles - only have a Dodge because due to depreciation of GM products, I was able to get it for no money out in a trade for a Tacoma double cab that was 2 years older with twice as many miles on it.)

Honda
Civic (250,000 miles, running great when I sold it)

Toyota

Celica (350,000 miles, my first car...purchased it with 250,000 miles for $900 and spent less than $500 in repairs to get another 100,000 out of it).

2 Tercels (1 in Anchorage Alaska purchased with 10,000 miles and put another 25,000 on it before I sold it...no issues through harsh Alaskan winter, the other Tercel had almost 200,000 miles on it when I traded it in for a new VW Bug-see above-eeek!)

2 Tacomas (single cab, no issues for 40,000 miles then traded it in on a new 2004 double cab. The double cab had no problems and we put 46000 miles on it and then traded it in at a dealer for a Dodge 2006 Caravan with half the miles on it...the Tacoma had such a great resale value we traded it out right for an even swap. Pretty amazing considering the Caravan was two years newer with half the miles on it and cost about $6000 more new than the Tacoma did.)

Yaris (just purchased two days ago...loving it)

WOW! Until I did this post, I had never made a list of all the cars I have owned. I had no idea there were that many.

PHXDEMON · 06-09-2009, 01:21 AM

I hope you understand that with all our BS safety standards by the time they bring that thing into the states it will weigh 2700 lbs.

05-30-2009, 08:04 PM	#2
firebob Drives: 09 yaris Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: on the road Posts: 236	Ford stopped work on the Fiesta during the auto makers bail out. This was done because it was not a hybrid. As far as I know they are going to keep the door open to the money but they want the GM stuff worked out first. If they put money into a non hybrid it will nock them out of the money option. Aclark I think the E90 law started in 2007. I think this dropped the MPG from 40 to 35 mpg. By this time next year we till be driving E85 so it will drop one more time. In the next 4 to 5 years I do not see a 4 wheel US car getting a better gas mileage then the Yaris unless it is a 3 cylinder, a hybrid, or high test gas. __________________ 09, 3 door lift back, auto. I live on the road with my wife. We travel as needed for our work and drive up to 4,500 miles in a bad week.

05-30-2009, 10:12 PM	#4
firebob Drives: 09 yaris Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: on the road Posts: 236	I’m not a chemist and don’t under stand it all… So I have it backwards. We are currently using E10 right now but soon it will be replaced by E15. E85 is flex fuel. I do know that ethanol is an oxygen additive and the older popular one was MTBE. Are they now using both now in some places? I have tested gas right out of the hose from time to time and the largest amount of ethanol I have found was about 38% using one of these things. __________________ 09, 3 door lift back, auto. I live on the road with my wife. We travel as needed for our work and drive up to 4,500 miles in a bad week.

05-31-2009, 05:13 AM	#7
nemelek DWEED Drives: 3DR 2008 Metorite Metalic Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,161	If or when it gets here and I was in the market for a new car, I would take a look at it before blindely buying another Yaris. __________________ Making a decision without following it with an action is still a fantasy.

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05-30-2009, 07:56 PM	#1
Airforce1 Drives: VW Jetta VR6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: FL Posts: 10	Very nice.....i love the car but i cannot see myself driving a ford....haha i dont know why i just cant get over that

05-30-2009, 08:41 PM	#5
Pitt Yaris Drives: Flint Mica Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 475	The interior is pretty awesome. That's one of the only thing the yaris lacks.

05-30-2009, 09:57 PM	#6
mr9865 $10.25/hr frying chicken View User's Garage Drives: 2012 Yaris L Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Green Bay WI Posts: 262	if you want to know more about the fiesta, here is a link to someone who got one to drive from ford here in the states. http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...d.php?t=198086

06-01-2009, 04:36 PM	#9
Bredayaris Drives: Toyota Yaris 1.3 vvti cvt Join Date: May 2007 Location: Breda, The Netherlands Posts: 158	Eeuhm the Fiesta is bigger than the Yaris for the liftback that is! I've searched for the length Yaris: 149'' the Fiesta: 155.5'' But my brother's mother in law has the new Fiesta and she already has many problems with this car!! The a/c unit doesn't work already and she has several other electronical problems with it! Me and my boyfriend (isn't the English language egoistic ;-) ) had several Fords 2 times a Focus and i had a Escort but those were problem cars too..

06-01-2009, 06:53 PM	#11
ddongbap Banned Drives: yw calls me douche and racist. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: hay Posts: 2,183	I'd totally rock a Fiesta.

06-08-2009, 08:10 PM	#12
doublewam Drives: 2009 Yaris Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19	Looks like the new Fiesta will be a great looking car. However, it's a Ford. Depreciation on it will bum you out and I don't think it will prove to be anywhere near as reliable as a Toyota. As for me, if it isn't a Honda or a Toyota, I'm done with it. Every Ford, Chrysler, & GM product I have ever owned has essentially been 'done' as a reliable automobile after 100,000 miles (some before). My Toyotas and Hondas have been 'miracle machines' in comparison. For the record...cars I have owned... Fords 2 Tauruses (both junk at 100,000-120,000 miles) 1 Windstar (also junked at 120,000 miles) Chrysler PT Cruiser ($2000 in warranty work, about $1000 out of pocket repairs, by 45,000 miles the AC was only working when going at least 55, it would often go dead when idling, the power steering made sounds like an elephant dying on cold days, other misc. issues. Traded this car in for the Yaris.) Volkswagon New Beetle (nightmare, was constantly back at the dealer with problems, traded it in at 20,000 miles for a Toyota Tacoma) Dodge Caravan (still have it, only 36,000 miles - only have a Dodge because due to depreciation of GM products, I was able to get it for no money out in a trade for a Tacoma double cab that was 2 years older with twice as many miles on it.) Honda Civic (250,000 miles, running great when I sold it) Toyota Celica (350,000 miles, my first car...purchased it with 250,000 miles for $900 and spent less than $500 in repairs to get another 100,000 out of it). 2 Tercels (1 in Anchorage Alaska purchased with 10,000 miles and put another 25,000 on it before I sold it...no issues through harsh Alaskan winter, the other Tercel had almost 200,000 miles on it when I traded it in for a new VW Bug-see above-eeek!) 2 Tacomas (single cab, no issues for 40,000 miles then traded it in on a new 2004 double cab. The double cab had no problems and we put 46000 miles on it and then traded it in at a dealer for a Dodge 2006 Caravan with half the miles on it...the Tacoma had such a great resale value we traded it out right for an even swap. Pretty amazing considering the Caravan was two years newer with half the miles on it and cost about $6000 more new than the Tacoma did.) Yaris (just purchased two days ago...loving it) WOW! Until I did this post, I had never made a list of all the cars I have owned. I had no idea there were that many.

06-09-2009, 01:21 AM	#13
PHXDEMON View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Red Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 885	I hope you understand that with all our BS safety standards by the time they bring that thing into the states it will weigh 2700 lbs.