Track Suspension

[kngrsll]

Originally Posted by Loren

I'm glad someone grasped what I was saying... I really felt like I was rambling. I literally had an awful headache at that very moment and wasn't sure I was making sense at all!

The problem with using 2.5" ID springs in the stock location is that the way the rear axle assembly moves, the lower spring perch does not come up in a straight line. It's fairly level at rest (at stock ride height), but as the suspension compresses or droops, that lower perch takes an angle compared to the upper perch, this makes the spring want to bend. Small diameter springs don't like to do that. The larger diameter spring will help with that, as will the pigtailed end.

2.5" ID springs are available in any size and rate you can think of, and they're dirt cheap (relatively speaking), but I'm not sure they'd work well for this application, unfortunately.

Thats makes sense... i did notice that when i was down there.

now does my logic for the single pig tailed springs seem sound then?

[Loren]

Originally Posted by kngrsll

now does my logic for the single pig tailed springs seem sound then?

Certainly worth a shot. I'd put the pigtail end down if possible, since the upper spring perch is the one that's fixed.

[kngrsll]

Originally Posted by Loren

Certainly worth a shot. I'd put the pigtail end down if possible, since the upper spring perch is the one that's fixed.

i think the opposite may be better. The top fixed perch seems a bit smaller than 5.5" just off the top of my head, so i think the pig tailed end would fit better there, while the bottom perch is just wide and flat.

As an alternative, I think it would be nice to come up with a way to secure the spring down flat perhaps if that set up must be done. Maybe drill a couple holes and run a clamp or something to keep it down, i dunno.

Care to expand on your idea Joel?

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by kngrsll

i think the opposite may be better. The top fixed perch seems a bit smaller than 5.5" just off the top of my head, so i think the pig tailed end would fit better there, while the bottom perch is just wide and flat.

As an alternative, I think it would be nice to come up with a way to secure the spring down flat perhaps if that set up must be done. Maybe drill a couple holes and run a clamp or something to keep it down, i dunno.

Care to expand on your idea Joel?

the silk roads utilize the weephole to bolt down the perch. can't remember if it was top or bottom, get RussellTehPirate to expound..

and i'm not the same chassis so we're talking mcintosh/fuji apples here...

as far as making conical mounts, what about grabbing some energy suspension urethane parts? i'm sure we can figure out SOMETHING that's already a stock part + a bolt/washer/nut...

[kngrsll]

Originally Posted by Tamago

the silk roads utilize the weephole to bolt down the perch. can't remember if it was top or bottom, get RussellTehPirate to expound..

and i'm not the same chassis so we're talking mcintosh/fuji apples here...

as far as making conical mounts, what about grabbing some energy suspension urethane parts? i'm sure we can figure out SOMETHING that's already a stock part + a bolt/washer/nut...

i like the idea of bolting down the spring/perch! nice...

i'm still not getting the conical mounts. i did a quick google and didnt really find anything useful. do you have a pic or example or something?

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by kngrsll

i like the idea of bolting down the spring/perch! nice...

i'm still not getting the conical mounts. i did a quick google and didnt really find anything useful. do you have a pic or example or something?

ok, the stock spring mounts have a small "raised" portion in the middle to help retain the spring, right?

so why not make a urethane "cone" that mounts to that same raised mount, kind of like a bump stop, that keeps the spring from falling out.. let me try paint+touchpad on my laptop brb

[kngrsll]

Originally Posted by Tamago

ok, the stock spring mounts have a small "raised" portion in the middle to help retain the spring, right?

so why not make a urethane "cone" that mounts to that same raised mount, kind of like a bump stop, that keeps the spring from falling out.. let me try paint+touchpad on my laptop brb

oh, i think i get it! another analogy is like a cup for the spring, right?