Took my Yaris back

[2bad4u]

[QUOTE=Kal-El;359657]Actually, most dealer drivers are retirees who are back working part time.

and I suppose little old ladies as well

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by 2bad4u

and I suppose little old ladies as well

I've only seen a few women out of the 40-50 drivers I've dealt with. Most of the drivers are indeed between 50 and 65 years of age.

[Yaris Hilton]

Anyway, the best way to break one in is to drive it. No special treatment.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

I've only seen a few women out of the 40-50 drivers I've dealt with. Most of the drivers are indeed between 50 and 65 years of age.

TRUE fricking that.

[Jem_hadar]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

I've only seen a few women out of the 40-50 drivers I've dealt with. Most of the drivers are indeed between 50 and 65 years of age.

All the drivers (that I've seen) at my Toyota dealership are def like retirees just doing some relaxed, part-time work for extra money in their retirement.

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

Anyway, the best way to break one in is to drive it. No special treatment.

amen...i drove mine back and forth to las vegas, twice, shortly after getting it...cruisin nicely at speeds varying between 70-90mph...i'm about to reach my 22k mile oil change and she purrrrs like a happy little synthetic oil fed kitten lol

[auxmike]

My car had 7 miles before I test drove it,and 8 after the test drive.
Guess it's was'nt switched around much.....

[A-tron]

Originally Posted by yaris-me

Dealer lie too easily. They should keep their agreements. Your mom has more balls than most men.

Most men, shit more like any one that I know. GO MOM!

[sammy]

Hello all, thanks for the replies. Heres an update.
The 4 door HB has 235 miles on it. It has the auto trans. and CP, CL, KE, PQ, CF options. Price is 14,998 before rebate of 750 and TTL.
The 3 door HB has 17 miles and the same options and is 14,864 before rebate of 750 and TTL.
Mom, just left from the dealer and told em she will let them know first thing in the morning.

Dad says the 200 miles (distance from the other dealer where they got the car from) is a common thing with new car dealer trades so really its up to mom if she wants to go through with the purchase or not and at this point she said she'll sleep on it.
Are these good prices compared to what others here have paid?

[gman2000]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

Actually, most dealer drivers are retirees who are back working part time.

And good luck getting the model, color, features, and everything else you want on the lot with 5 miles or less. That is like winning the lottery.

I've seen many cars even roll off the truck (from the factory) with more than 5 miles on it. Then the dealer is required to road test it and gas it up (PDI) which is another couple of miles. Then, many models are test driven any time a customer is interested in a particular model where the demo won't do. And in my experience, about 25% of our new cars are swapped in with 50-300 miles on them.

As for "retirees" working at dealerships, I have yet to meet one, everyone is between 18-40, including the managers. Maybe you are talking about Dodge dealerships...

If I REALLY REALLY NEED A SPECIFIC COLOR and I want to be picky about it, I would locate the car myself, there is the Internet for this, and I would pick it up myself. Someone that buys a car with 100 miles on it as "new" doesn't know enough about cars or automobiles in general to make that decision, when I test drive a car, I put it through it's paces, it gets funny looks from the salesguy sitting next to me esp. when he grabs the "oh shit" bar and asks me to go back to the lot... I know i'm not buying THAT car, but one like it, with 5 miles or less. Revs reaching the 6,000 mark are not good for any new engine, read the owner's manual.

I've never seen a dealer road test any car, and I have bought new cars with 1/2 tank of gas, call me stupid for not asking for a full tank, but that is usually the least of my worries when I buy a car. Actually I got a gas card when I bought my Yaris, now that I think about it.

But, ce la vie (is that how you spell it?) there are those that will still buy a 200 mile "new" car and not expect any premature cylinder wear or valve taps due to mishandling of the vehicle at its onset.

Don't get me wrong... knock off 3k-5k from the sticker price and I will consider a "new" 200 miles vehicle anyday.

[gman2000]

I wouldn't buy any new car with more than 5 miles on it. If i'm going to drive a new car with pot hole marks on my wheels, i'm going to make sure I put them there... lol

Also, I read your first post way back, sounds like your mom might've pissed someone off at the dealership... how do you think they are going to treat your car now? lol

It's like the story of, "Never piss off the teenager working at McDonald's", because once you do, everytime you come back, he's gonna spit in your Big Mac.

I noticed the only ppl on here defending "dealer trades" are the ppl that work at the dealerships, LMAO. The very same ppl that sit down with you when you want to buy a car and the first question that comes out of their lips is "How much can you afford to pay per month?"

[eric81]

Originally Posted by POORSHA

Why not get everything you can get out of the dealer? They also have the option of saying no. I am sure the dealer never charged more than sticker for a Prius when they were the hot car.

Believe it or not, but there is almost no mark up on the Prius. I lost 2 sales in the past week because the people asked for the best possible price on the Prius, and I had to tell them that the price on the sticker WAS the best price. Both felt lied to, and walked away, but we don't mark the price up one bit. We don't even make a deacent profit on the car as a dealer. It's kinda sad actually, that is why I don't push the car for sale as much as I push the other cars. I still try to sell it, I just don't push as hard as I do with the others, because I know when it comes down to negotiating all the figures, most people will walk feeling lied to. It sucks for me, because if they don't buy, I don't get paid. I am doing fine selling the rest of the vehicles, and have 1 of almost every other car sold. I am still working on the Yaris and the Camry. And I LOVE the Yaris, but we only have two left on the lot, and people argue the value of the Camry vs the value of the SUV's to me, and I try to explain, but most people don't want to listen and form their own opinions. Still, I do urge people to come in and look at the cars, just for knowledge sake, and look at REAL facts, like how 4 of the top 10 Americanized vehicles are Toyota's. That means that the parts are made here, the cars are assembled here, and the vehicles are sold here. A lot of the American cars are being handled in Mexico or Canada now. Also, Toyota's are the most dependable and fuel efficient full car line up in America. The facts stand, regardless of what Motor Trend or those other magazines say. Look at the second and third pages, and see who's car got the full page spread, and that's who paid for the magazine. It is almost NEVER Toyota, and that is why they bash them. And I will gladly put any one of my Toyota's next to a comparable vehicle of ANY brand and let you decide which one is better in value, safety, fuel efficiency, and in dependability.

[eric81]

Originally Posted by gman2000

I wouldn't buy any new car with more than 5 miles on it. If i'm going to drive a new car with pot hole marks on my wheels, i'm going to make sure I put them there... lol

Also, I read your first post way back, sounds like your mom might've pissed someone off at the dealership... how do you think they are going to treat your car now? lol

It's like the story of, "Never piss off the teenager working at McDonald's", because once you do, everytime you come back, he's gonna spit in your Big Mac.

I noticed the only ppl on here defending "dealer trades" are the ppl that work at the dealerships, LMAO. The very same ppl that sit down with you when you want to buy a car and the first question that comes out of their lips is "How much can you afford to pay per month?"

I don't ask that... I ask what they do, if they have a large or small family, what they are looking for (car, truck, SUV, van), what they want in a vehicle, and if they want new or used. Maybe that is why I am not going to win the employee of the month, but my customers leave happy and comfortable, or leave in the same car they drove in knowing they aren't in over their heads, and I try to find something they will be happy in. It's not about how much you can afford, because I have sold some really inexpensive vehicles to some very rich people. 2 have even paid cash. If you do tell me a price, I stick to it. Plain and simple. I even go out of my way if I don't have it and see if I can find it. But, I am not making salesman of the month, either.

[Jem_hadar]

Originally Posted by gman2000

But, ce la vie (is that how you spell it?) there

C'est la vie.

[sammy]

UPDATE: we are not yaris owners yet :(
Today at 9 am mom goes to the dealer to go ahead with the deal and the leader of the sales guys says yep we still want your business lets do it then tells mom they want a cashiers check because she stopped payment on the first one and stiffed em, mom replied we'll if I did'nt would you have found the second car I wanted, optioned the way I wanted and in the color I wanted like you said you would/could if I did'nt?
The salesmans fearless leader (with his cape waving in the air) said we'll we did did'nt we? mom said yes of course you did once I brought the first car back and told you I stopped payment, the deal was for the two (2) cars as discussed and if you cannot do as you say you can the deal was off, then she said she's had enough with them (calmly) told em have a nice day and we'll take our business elsewhere as we left.

[Revsson]

I think your mom has taken this a little too far.
If they had the two cars at the price she agreed to, then why haggle over a cashier's check?
Did I get this correct that this dealer is someone you have been using in the past and
have had work done? Overall you were happy with the dealer before this?

I guess I was lucky. There was some "miscommunication" with my salesman, but
we straightened it out. The car I wanted was not on the lot. Turns out that another
dealer wanted a Yellow one on my dealer's lot, so they traded. The other dealer
trailered my car up there. The odometer read 7 miles when I picked it up. I guess I
agree with your dad about the mileage. When I was searching other dealers in my
area, I actually found the car I wanted locally, so was thinking that maybe they would
trade locally and have about 25 miles on it.

I also ended up paying a little more because the car had keyless entry power package
and cruise, which wasn't a high priority, but I really like it now. Of course, after finding
out about ScottC's $10 cruise mod, I would have tried that if I didn't have factory cruise.

Anyway, best of luck to you and hope that you (and mom) finally get a Yaris.

[eric81]

Okay... for the whole mileage thing, most cars do have less than 25 miles on them, that means they were probably at that dealer the whole time. Dealers tend to test drive certian ones more than others, because people ask to test drive certian ones more than others. More than that, and it has either ben on the lot a long time, or has been driven from one lot to the other. PROBABLY. Now, I know I take all my customers on a 3 to 5 mile test drive and don't complain if they accidently squeak the tires a little, or hit the brakes kinda hard. I would do the same if I was going to be buying it. I want to know the car CAN stop if needed, and does have some get-up-and-go. Now, I am not robbing a bank and doing fast-and-furious stunts, mind you, so ne harm is done in my test drives. If a customer does do harm ,I tell them to pull over immedeatly, I drive back, alert the sales managers, and the see if any damage has been done, and how much, then decide if they need to charge the guy or tell him goodbye.

[Revsson]

Originally Posted by eric81

... Now, I am not robbing a bank and doing fast-and-furious stunts, mind you, so ne harm is done in my test drives. ...

If you do decide to test drive it this way, be sure to get a video from
the cop's dash cam as he chases you.