The open political discussion thread. Read the first post!

[TLyttle]

I think that you should have a look around, JBougie, not just around the US. Check other countries to see how successful they are, regardless of the big difficulties your country face right now. Even Canada is doing better for a few simple reasons, not the least of which how horrible "liberalism" is when applied to a civilised society. Many people see the US as being less and less civilised as time goes by. It wouldn't hurt you to see why, simply by getting some perspective.

Not meant as criticism, just a quiet suggestion...

[JBougie]

Originally Posted by TLyttle

I think that you should have a look around, JBougie, not just around the US. Check other countries to see how successful they are, regardless of the big difficulties your country face right now. Even Canada is doing better for a few simple reasons, not the least of which how horrible "liberalism" is when applied to a civilised society. Many people see the US as being less and less civilised as time goes by. It wouldn't hurt you to see why, simply by getting some perspective.

Not meant as criticism, just a quiet suggestion...

Yes. Yes. Yes. Government is the answer to all our problems. Screw having to be responsible for yourself.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by TLyttle

I think that you should have a look around, JBougie, not just around the US. Check other countries to see how successful they are, regardless of the big difficulties your country face right now. Even Canada is doing better for a few simple reasons, not the least of which how horrible "liberalism" is when applied to a civilised society. Many people see the US as being less and less civilised as time goes by. It wouldn't hurt you to see why, simply by getting some perspective.

Not meant as criticism, just a quiet suggestion...

No offense as Canada is a great country but,

may I ask what Canada creates/invents, leads in, or is there any technological advances they have made for society, ect..?

The majority of all technology, invention, creativity, and entrepreneurial spirit comes from only a few countries and the most being the USA. Others being Japan, Germany, and a couple of others to a lesser extent.

It's our individual freedoms and liberties that have made this possible, not an intrusive government that cradles us to the grave with false promises.

That is why Obama is the most dangerous person to ever have influence on America. He is deconstructing America in favor of turning us toward a mediocre state where government controls all and the human spirit dies.

[Altitude]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

No offense as Canada is a great country but,

may I ask what Canada creates/invents, leads in, or is there any technological advances they have made for society, ect..?

The majority of all technology, invention, creativity, and entrepreneurial spirit comes from only a few countries and the most being the USA. Others being Japan, Germany, and a couple of others to a lesser extent.

I don't really see how swinging technological schlongs has any bearing on the worth of a society.

It's our individual freedoms and liberties that have made this possible, not an intrusive government that cradles us to the grave with false promises.

That is why Obama is the most dangerous person to ever have influence on America. He is deconstructing America in favor of turning us toward a mediocre state where government controls all and the human spirit dies.

Last time I checked the President is still limited to two four year terms and we have a representative Congress that actually has more bearing on what sorts of policies are implemented. What policies would Obama implement that, if proven harmful to American society and ideals, could not be repealed after he leaves office?

This is not the apocalypse. The Republicans will gain more seats next year. Probably not enough to gain a majority, but enough to remove the Dem majority we have now. Then things will stagnate, congress will be gridlocked until 2012 and we'll all get a chance to retain or remove Obama based upon his performance.

I guarantee you that your life will not be drastically altered between now and then. So please lighten up on the doomsday theatrics.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by Altitude

I don't really see how swinging technological schlongs has any bearing on the worth of a society.



Last time I checked the President is still limited to two four year terms and we have a representative Congress that actually has more bearing on what sorts of policies are implemented. What policies would Obama implement that, if proven harmful to American society and ideals, could not be repealed after he leaves office?

This is not the apocalypse. The Republicans will gain more seats next year. Probably not enough to gain a majority, but enough to remove the Dem majority we have now. Then things will stagnate, congress will be gridlocked until 2012 and we'll all get a chance to retain or remove Obama based upon his performance.

I guarantee you that your life will not be drastically altered between now and then. So please lighten up on the doomsday theatrics.

The problem is that Obama has so many radicals on his side and it's enough to implement very damaging policies. Congress has never looked this way before. Just two of the bills being forced (Obama Care and Cap and Tax) would significantly damage our society and would be difficult to reverse (especially once government takes over health care). Notice how fast they are trying to force these things before people learn too much about them.

Sometimes it's almost impossible to reverse things. Look at Social Security and Medicare. Two programs with obligations of $57,000,000,000,000.00 (with a "T"). And Obama, Pelosi, Reed, Biden, and so many others want to double down on it.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by PK198105

ouch.. you serious with that post? for one your diaper wearing astronauts would have a tough time doing anything up there without the Canadarm (the robotic arm thats on every one of your shuttles AND the ISS.

Snowmobile....so you can hunt in the deepest snows and forests of Nebraska

Pharmaceuticals

Leader in aerospace design and R&D

Fiber optics

Peacekeeping

Oh and lets not forget who helps keep your butt safe in Afghanistan

read up it will help you avoid looking ignorant...sorry it had to be said

No offense was meant. I'm French Canadian myself. The point was to show how America, as it has been, has created an environment (freedom, capitalism, ect) that works the best at advancing society. All countries create something but realistically there are only a few that create and invent the majority of things.