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Old 10-13-2009, 12:48 AM   #1
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My car is completely legal all I have is a TRD Rear Sway bar(factory option) and sport exhaust which is allowed
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:38 AM   #2
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My car is completely legal all I have is a TRD Rear Sway bar(factory option) and sport exhaust which is allowed
That is not correct. Again, not trying to bust on you, but you should read the SCCA rules. Your car was not available from the factory with that part, therefore it is not class-legal. Just because Toyota sells it through their dealers doesn't make it legal. TRD also sells lowering springs and a CAI. It must have been produced at the factory in that configuration, in that model year, in the package you own. So, even if they start making the rear sway standard on the 2011 "S" package, you can't run it, because you dont; have that year/model.
Same thing goes for your 6.5" wide wheels.

Stock class is extremely strict, specifically because the cars are carefully class to be competitive. You are currently being given the most generous PAX index of any car in autocross, but your car has been given a significant handling improvement over your HS competitiors and the rest of the feild by way of your PAX. You wanna win that trophy fair-and-square, right?
If you doubt me, post the question on your local SCCA forum.
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Old 10-13-2009, 02:25 PM   #3
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That is not correct. Again, not trying to bust on you, but you should read the SCCA rules. Your car was not available from the factory with that part, therefore it is not class-legal. Just because Toyota sells it through their dealers doesn't make it legal. TRD also sells lowering springs and a CAI. It must have been produced at the factory in that configuration, in that model year, in the package you own. So, even if they start making the rear sway standard on the 2011 "S" package, you can't run it, because you dont; have that year/model.
Same thing goes for your 6.5" wide wheels.

Stock class is extremely strict, specifically because the cars are carefully class to be competitive. You are currently being given the most generous PAX index of any car in autocross, but your car has been given a significant handling improvement over your HS competitiors and the rest of the feild by way of your PAX. You wanna win that trophy fair-and-square, right?
If you doubt me, post the question on your local SCCA forum.
i thought - and i could very well be wrong - there was a little loop-hole called 'port installed option' that allows the trd rear anti-sway bar on models/years that had that option available? again, i don't autox(yet), but i've done a fair bit of reading on the matter of hs prep and i think there's nothing wrong with taking every LEGAL advantage you can.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:02 PM   #4
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i thought - and i could very well be wrong - there was a little loop-hole called 'port installed option' that allows the trd rear anti-sway bar on models/years that had that option available? again, i don't autox(yet), but i've done a fair bit of reading on the matter of hs prep and i think there's nothing wrong with taking every LEGAL advantage you can.
well, it's only illegal if you get contested. and when a yaris starts whipping up on 1990 honda civics in H stock, then the civics will take notice. however, a yaris on street tires is NEVER going to be whupping up on ANYTHING in h stock..
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Old 10-13-2009, 04:41 PM   #5
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well, it's only illegal if you get contested. and when a yaris starts whipping up on 1990 honda civics in H stock, then the civics will take notice. however, a yaris on street tires is NEVER going to be whupping up on ANYTHING in h stock..

Well, he appears to be whooping up on all kinds of cars, since he's 2nd overall in the SCCA region he runs in.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:07 PM   #6
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well, it's only illegal if you get contested. and when a yaris starts whipping up on 1990 honda civics in H stock, then the civics will take notice. however, a yaris on street tires is NEVER going to be whupping up on ANYTHING in h stock..
Oh how wrong that last sentence is. There have been two in my region that have placed in the top 3 every event and even a few first place finishes. Driver experience is key.
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Oh how wrong that last sentence is. There have been two in my region that have placed in the top 3 every event and even a few first place finishes. Driver experience is key.
against what, and how many cars in H stock>?

what counts is what happens at nationals.

i am fast in south florida

i am slow, extremely slow on a national level.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:21 PM   #8
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Well one Yaris does compete on a National level.
06 Scion tC
06 Mazda 6
92 Honda Civic
05 Scion xB
And a small handful of others that made it to most, but not all of the events.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:04 PM   #9
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If i could add to this topic. I've been solo-ing for 4 years. And in subarus, now that i've blown a motor, i've been racing the yaris for a few events. I plan to run it for the rest of this season, and possibly for the next.

With that said, I now know why Yaris-x is soo fast in his class. His car should be classed in Street touring. In hawaii region, as per scca classing, NO rear sway-bar allowed, as well as aftermarket spring/struts. You can replace your strut, but stock springs must be used. There are a few modifications to be done in H-Stock, and are mostly small bolt-on stuff like axleback exhaust, a front swaybar may also be added or removed. And R-comps (tires) are allowed. That's mostly it.

Here's my mods, and it's crappy, but i'm in ST because of them. Blitz intake, TWM SSK/shifter bushings, ultra room bar, and TRD swaybar. THAT'S IT!!
I am currently on hankook rs-2's in the front, and primewell's in the rear. I can kick out the rear and spin this car like no ones business!
I am getting smoked right now by 2 honda fits, a maxima, and a few other cars in ST. Mods would help i would think, but i'm trying to improve myself as a driver (although to be honest i'm pretty good w/ AWD) trying to learn FWD.

Yeah, good tires would help, maybe 20 more HP, some neg. camber upfront and a smidge in the rear. Some toe-out in the rear. But i can't see this car competing against miatas, esp. on tighter courses, which we run in our region a lot.

But i guess i will be the only one racing, as you guys will have winter break soon, so i'll post up my results.
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But i can't see this car competing against miatas, esp. on tighter courses, which we run in our region a lot.
that's because a yaris and a miata will never be in the same class, EVER ;)
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that's because a yaris and a miata will never be in the same class, EVER ;)
Yeah, thank god for that. Miatas have the power to weight of a go-kart!
2 of my buddies have around 240whp in a 2100 lb chassis.
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Old 10-13-2009, 04:46 PM   #12
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Yeah, thank god for that. Miatas have the power to weight of a go-kart!
2 of my buddies have around 240whp in a 2100 lb chassis.
Miata and Yaris can't be in the same class because Miatas are 2-seater.

Your buddies Miatas would run in Modified classes, since they are obviously FI cars with that HP. I have a bunch of buddies here in the DFW Miatas that are similar.
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