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Old 12-09-2009, 07:39 PM   #1
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Here in western New York we got screwed a few years back with the winter blend. Oxygenated fuel. Read Ethanol. Now we get screwed year 'round. Every pump in the area has a 10% ethanol sticker on it. Ethanol starts to evaporate when it hits the air. You get to pump more. The evap systems on the cars today can't hold the alcohol fumes. You get to pump more. Alcohol does not have as much energy content as gasoline. You get to pump more.
Who is the winner in this mess?
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Old 12-09-2009, 08:01 PM   #2
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Who is the winner in this mess?
Corn farmers (who get heavy Federal subsidies to grow the corn the ethanol is made from), Monsanto (who makes the genetically modified corn seeds the farmers buy from them each year), and the oil companies (whose drilling efforts produce the raw materials for the synthetic fertilizers and pesticides used to grow the corn).

Pretty much everybody else gets shafted.
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:33 PM   #3
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Yeah, IMO it's foolish to grow food and ferment it to fuel. I've really got no problem with the alcohol in the fuel itself. Most of the purported problems have been exaggerated. I believe our Yarises would be fine if there were 25% ethanol in the gas as they run in Brazil, but we need to develop better sources than corn for biofuels. It's far too inefficient, and has run up food prices.
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:14 PM   #4
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Yeah, IMO it's foolish to grow food and ferment it to fuel. I've really got no problem with the alcohol in the fuel itself. Most of the purported problems have been exaggerated. I believe our Yarises would be fine if there were 25% ethanol in the gas as they run in Brazil, but we need to develop better sources than corn for biofuels. It's far too inefficient, and has run up food prices.
Sugar cane and sugar beets are far more superior to corn. The corn farmers just have a better strangle hold on our corrupt government.
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