3/gallon gas comming soon

[THEDON]

I do not post here often, and I am not surprised at such a topic such as this one here on the Yaris sight. Yet some of the conclusions that people come to here to fix the problems of "Gas Guzzlers, and "Climate Change" scare me.

First off, raising the taxes in any shape form or way, is very unhealthy for the economy. Giving the money to politicians does not solve anything, it only compounds the problem we are in today. leaving the money in the pockets of such greedy people who have no comprehension on how to fix it is a mistake. It would be much better to leave the money in the pockets of the citizen who can make the best judgement of how to handle his or her own situation.

As for those people who want to buy such autos like hummers and large trucks...i say let them. when they are broke because they cannot afford it, they have know one to blame but the person in the mirror. One of thing this country lacks is personal responsibility, that is not something the Government can give through taxation. That has to be taught buy the parent or peers.

As for Climate Change we all have our own opinions on that, With equally different solutions. I think that forcing people to change there lifestyle through government legeslation is down right anti american. I love my country because of my freedom to choose. I do not want them telling me how to live my life, even if they think i am wrong. I own a Yaris (which i love) and an old beater truck (which i equally love) and both serve there purpose.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by THEDON

As for those people who want to buy such autos like hummers and large trucks...i say let them. when they are broke because they cannot afford it, they have know one to blame but the person in the mirror. One of thing this country lacks is personal responsibility, that is not something the Government can give through taxation. That has to be taught buy the parent or peers.

Then again... if you are savvy enough to stomp upon and enslave your fellow man, operating within the rules of capitalism, then you can have all the Hummers you want, with no risk of going broke. Right? And using the power you have accumulated, you can make foolish decisions which make the purchase of a single Hummer by an individual pale in comparison.

Because, at that point, you are decidedly out for yourself. (Free Enterprise is God! And *I* am his favorite apostle!)

If there is anywhere that your "parents and peers" have demonstrably failed it would have to be "personal responsibility" among the high fliers of Free Enterprise.

In my next installment, perhaps I should chronicle the years long history of incredibly poor and short-sighted decisions which led to the collapse of the American auto industry?

Would you like that, Mr. Free Enterprise?

You picked a bad backdrop for your Free Enterprise pitch. Because private industry fucked up royally, over a period of years, to get itself where it is today. The American public happily went along for the ride... and fully deserves to share in the consequences.

[THEDON]

"You picked a bad backdrop for your Free Enterprise pitch. Because private industry fucked up royally, over a period of years, to get itself where it is today. The American public happily went along for the ride... and fully deserves to share in the consequences."

If a company makes more decisions IE: GMC, Chrysler. let them fail. Other industries and companies will replace them. Using the taxpayer money to bail out irresponsibility on the other hand? Now that is in itself irresponsible because our Government is in no position to bail anyone out. If the situation occurs where oil and other fossil fuels is no longer a reasonable and reliable source, then let the american public go out there and create alternatives, we have been accomplishing more then any other country in 200 years.

The Government is never the answer. Government is a needed in a limited role. Any larger and you will have a tyranny on your hands.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by THEDON

If the situation occurs where oil and other fossil fuels is no longer a reasonable and reliable source,

That actually happened back in the 1970s. But we've put on a most impressive display of denial over the subsequent 35 years.

then let the american public go out there and create alternatives, we have been accomplishing more then any other country in 200 years.

ROTFLMAO! Open your eyes and look at how things have changed in the last few decades. Look at education, trade balance, whatever. Pretty much anywhere you look you will find signs of the ongoing erosion. The collapse of our auto industry is merely a salient and easily recognizable symptom. The rot actually runs much deeper.

-Steve

[Kongo-Otto]

You should feel quite lucky over there. Gas is 7,66$ per gallon in Germany. I just calculated it.

[1stToyota]

Can't hardly wait! It'll help to remind me why I sold the Goat.

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

there may be a point, but they pay $7-8 a gallon in Europe, and I still would not even think twice to pay that amount

Originally Posted by Kongo-Otto

You should feel quite lucky over there. Gas is 7,66$ per gallon in Germany. I just calculated it.

das ist, was ich gerade gesagt habe

aber etwa die Hälfte der Autos in Deutschland sind Diesel-als auch