Swaybar vs. lowering springs

[tk-421]

I got springs first (Tanabe NFs) and then a sway bar a few months later (U*R 23mm). My decision on the former was based (mostly) on looks, and on the latter based on handling. I'm also considering some Tokico (sp?) shocks in a few months.

I highly encourage you to get both the springs and the bar if you can, even if you're not interested in how much better it looks after swapping springs.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

Originally Posted by tk-421

I got springs first (Tanabe NFs) and then a sway bar a few months later (U*R 23mm). My decision on the former was based (mostly) on looks, and on the latter based on handling. I'm also considering some Tokico (sp?) shocks in a few months.

I highly encourage you to get both the springs and the bar if you can, even if you're not interested in how much better it looks after swapping springs.

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I did the same thing. I got Tanabe DF springs first (as well as an NST short shift kit, and under-drive pulley), then a sway bar later. I got the springs because they would make the car look good, and make the car handle better. I am thinking about shocks, soon, but I would prefer to buy coil-overs. Again I also agree with tk, try to get both, (but I would get springs first, if you can't)

[froger]

TRD SPRINGS AND SHOCK ,TRD SWAY BAR , TOYOTA OEM CAMBER BOLTS
THIS IN REGARDS TO WHICH IS BETTER , THIS ALL DEPENDS ON THE ALIGNMENT SET UP. BY FACTORY YARIS DON'T HAVE A RACING SET UP SO WHEN YOU LOWER YOUR CAR WITH FACTORY SPECS, IT WON'T HANDLE WELL .THE KEY THING IS TO ADJUST THE CAMBER ,ZERO OUT THE TOE, IF YOU ARE USING SPRINGS BUT IF YOU PLAN ON USING FACTORY SPECS OR IF YOUR NOT A PERSON WHO IS MECHANICALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE JUST STICK TO THE SWAY BAR . THE REASON WHY THE SWAY WORKS ON FACTORY SETTING IS BECAUSE THE FRONT TIRES LACK THE ANGLE NEEDED TO CONTACT THE ROAD DURING CORNERING ,WHAT THE SWAY BAR DOES IS IT DISTRIBUTES MORE OF THE WEIGHT TO THE REAR CAUSING THE REAR TO TAKE MORE OF THE CORNERING FORCE. THIS INTERN CAUSES THE REAR TIRES TO HEAT UP FASTER AND LOOSE TRACTION ,THIS IS WHAT CAUSES THE OVER STEER OR NEUTRAL FEEL WITH THE SWAY BAR. I USE THE SWAY BAR ONLY BECAUSE IN WINTER THIS RACING SET UP WITH THE COMBINATION OF WINTER TIRES BECOMES TO UNSTABLE SO I ADJUST IT SO
I HAVE LESS CAMBER AND MORE TOE ONLY IN WINTER TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE STABLE.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

Originally Posted by froger

TRD SPRINGS AND SHOCK ,TRD SWAY BAR , TOYOTA OEM CAMBER BOLTS
THIS IN REGARDS TO WHICH IS BETTER , THIS ALL DEPENDS ON THE ALIGNMENT SET UP. BY FACTORY YARIS DON'T HAVE A RACING SET UP SO WHEN YOU LOWER YOUR CAR WITH FACTORY SPECS, IT WON'T HANDLE WELL .THE KEY THING IS TO ADJUST THE CAMBER ,ZERO OUT THE TOE, IF YOU ARE USING SPRINGS BUT IF YOU PLAN ON USING FACTORY SPECS OR IF YOUR NOT A PERSON WHO IS MECHANICALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE JUST STICK TO THE SWAY BAR . THE REASON WHY THE SWAY WORKS ON FACTORY SETTING IS BECAUSE THE FRONT TIRES LACK THE ANGLE NEEDED TO CONTACT THE ROAD DURING CORNERING ,WHAT THE SWAY BAR DOES IS IT DISTRIBUTES MORE OF THE WEIGHT TO THE REAR CAUSING THE REAR TO TAKE MORE OF THE CORNERING FORCE. THIS INTERN CAUSES THE REAR TIRES TO HEAT UP FASTER AND LOOSE TRACTION ,THIS IS WHAT CAUSES THE OVER STEER OR NEUTRAL FEEL WITH THE SWAY BAR. I USE THE SWAY BAR ONLY BECAUSE IN WINTER THIS RACING SET UP WITH THE COMBINATION OF WINTER TIRES BECOMES TO UNSTABLE SO I ADJUST IT SO
I HAVE LESS CAMBER AND MORE TOE ONLY IN WINTER TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE STABLE.

IMHO... There is so much wrong with this explanation...

[Loren]

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

IMHO... There is so much wrong with this explanation...

If he's talking about a front swaybar, it's somewhat correct. Front swaybar transfers weight to the outside rear tire giving it more traction. Great for most RWD cars. Not so much for a FWD car.

What a stiffer rear swaybar does is transfers weight to the outside FRONT tire, which is the tire that is doing the most work when your FWD car is trying to power out of a turn.

It accomplishes this by taking weight off of the inside rear tire in a turn. Since weight transfers diagonally on a car, any weight taken off of the inside rear goes to the outside front.

Ain't physics fun?

[eht13]

THIS is pretty interesting... this explanation and information is pretty accurate, right?