W.O.T in neutral - Toyota Yaris Forums

Loren · 03-15-2010, 01:22 PM

It would bang the rev limiter at about 6200 rpm.

Some cars have a secondary rev limit that kicks in at a lower rpm in some conditions. (like my old Saturn limited to 4k if the car wasn't moving) Not sure about the Yaris.

Modern engines are designed to basically not harm themselves. You can bang the rev limit for quite some time without hurting anything. Now, if you botch a shift and do something like grab 2nd gear when you were reaching for 4th after revving out 3rd... that can over-rev and do some damage. (if you have an automatic, the ECU won't allow such a downshift, it will delay the downshift it until it is safe)

Wanna see what your Yaris will do if you drop it into neutral at speed and keep the hammer down? Try it! Seriously, you're not going to hurt a thing, just make a lot of noise and scare pedestrians.

If you actually HAD a stuck throttle, you'd probably want to kill the ignition when you went to neutral and just be aware that your power brakes are going to go away very quickly due to no vacuum. (you can still stop, it will just take more pedal effort)

Yaris Hilton · 03-15-2010, 01:39 PM

The fuel injection cuts off when it hits the maximum allowable revs. About 6200 for the 1NZ-FE.

You can still blow one up overreving if you have a manual transmission and downshift too far at too high a speed.

sbergman27 · 03-15-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Loren

If you actually HAD a stuck throttle, you'd probably want to kill the ignition when you went to neutral...

But mightn't that flip the car?

Yariz · 04-13-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sbergman27

But mightn't that flip the car?

No, this is actually a HORRIBLE idea. The reason this became a big mess to begin with (other than all the hurt people, doesn't matter to corps). Was the fact that a guy that TEACHES driving to driving instructors died while on the phone. During that conversation he told the 911 operator everything he was doing. If you turn off the ignition you will lose your power steering. Pretty much anything you guys can suggest that would work he knew how to do. So, dont turn off ur car if the throttle gets stuck. Put it in neutral coast to the side of the hwy and turn it off.

Yaris Hilton · 04-14-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Yariz

No, this is actually a HORRIBLE idea. The reason this became a big mess to begin with (other than all the hurt people, doesn't matter to corps). Was the fact that a guy that TEACHES driving to driving instructors died while on the phone. During that conversation he told the 911 operator everything he was doing. If you turn off the ignition you will lose your power steering. Pretty much anything you guys can suggest that would work he knew how to do. So, dont turn off ur car if the throttle gets stuck. Put it in neutral coast to the side of the hwy and turn it off.

Even if you turn off and lose the power steering and power brakes, the steering and brakes still work. That guy died in ignominious shame, IMO.

BluYrs · 04-14-2010, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

Even if you turn off and lose the power steering and power brakes, the steering and brakes still work. That guy died in ignominious shame, IMO.

Turn off the ignition and the steering will lock up- not wise when you're moving.

Bluevitz-rs · 04-14-2010, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BluYrs

Turn off the ignition and the steering will lock up- not wise when you're moving.

The steering will only lock if you take the key out of the ignition.

Yaris Hilton · 04-14-2010, 03:31 PM

There is a click back that turns off the ignition and leaves power accessories on. The steering does not lock. As has been said many times, the first step is to put on the brakes. The brakes are more powerful than the engine. If you pump the brakes, you will lose vacuum assist. You won't if you put them on and keep them on. Next is to put the transmission in neutral. There's no lockout of that, and no negative to doing it. Turning off the switch really isn't the first thing to try, but will work. A Highway Patrolman who couldn't deal with that is just shameful. Tragically so in this case. Everyone ought to get taught basic emergency procedures for dealing with a stuck throttle, failed brakes and such in driver's ed.

03-15-2010, 01:22 PM	#1
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	It would bang the rev limiter at about 6200 rpm. Some cars have a secondary rev limit that kicks in at a lower rpm in some conditions. (like my old Saturn limited to 4k if the car wasn't moving) Not sure about the Yaris. Modern engines are designed to basically not harm themselves. You can bang the rev limit for quite some time without hurting anything. Now, if you botch a shift and do something like grab 2nd gear when you were reaching for 4th after revving out 3rd... that can over-rev and do some damage. (if you have an automatic, the ECU won't allow such a downshift, it will delay the downshift it until it is safe) Wanna see what your Yaris will do if you drop it into neutral at speed and keep the hammer down? Try it! Seriously, you're not going to hurt a thing, just make a lot of noise and scare pedestrians. If you actually HAD a stuck throttle, you'd probably want to kill the ignition when you went to neutral and just be aware that your power brakes are going to go away very quickly due to no vacuum. (you can still stop, it will just take more pedal effort) __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

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Yaris Hilton Half a Bubble Off Plumb Drives: 2009 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 1,593	The fuel injection cuts off when it hits the maximum allowable revs. About 6200 for the 1NZ-FE. You can still blow one up overreving if you have a manual transmission and downshift too far at too high a speed.

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Yaris Hilton Half a Bubble Off Plumb Drives: 2009 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 1,593	There is a click back that turns off the ignition and leaves power accessories on. The steering does not lock. As has been said many times, the first step is to put on the brakes. The brakes are more powerful than the engine. If you pump the brakes, you will lose vacuum assist. You won't if you put them on and keep them on. Next is to put the transmission in neutral. There's no lockout of that, and no negative to doing it. Turning off the switch really isn't the first thing to try, but will work. A Highway Patrolman who couldn't deal with that is just shameful. Tragically so in this case. Everyone ought to get taught basic emergency procedures for dealing with a stuck throttle, failed brakes and such in driver's ed.