Ford Fiesta: 40 mpg Hwy

[bronsin]

Its got a 1.6 liter engine. Hard to understand how it can rival the Yaris which has a 1.5 liter engine.

[127.0.0.1]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Its got a 1.6 liter engine. Hard to understand how it can rival the Yaris which has a 1.5 liter engine.

these 4 things a Yaris doesn't have

sulev/pzev
electric a/c
higher geared overdrive
Ti-VCT variable cam timing vs Yaris VVT-i which is variable valve timing.
(this is Fords version of VVT-i and means more fine tuning unobtainable with VVT-i
2 fully independent variable camshafts. can't do that in the Toyota. both
cams are in sync)


how is that hard to understand ?



also...

do not crap yourself when GM releases new cars with 45 mpg non-hybrid. the MPG ratings
of old are coming back, due to advances in catalyst technology GM just revealed. no longer will there be a need
to have as much unspent fuel fire the cat. they can now seriously reduce unburnt fuel and
keep emissions down. with current cat technology, you must have some unburnt fuel get wasted
to burn up in the cat or non-co2 (the toxic ones) emissions go through the roof. GM has new material that
cuts the need for unspent fuel way back, allowing more finite tuning of the cam and combustion process.

[slothman86]

Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1

these 4 things a Yaris doesn't have

sulev/pzev
electric a/c
higher geared overdrive
Ti-VCT variable cam timing vs Yaris VVT-i which is variable valve timing.
(this is Fords version of VVT-i and means more fine tuning unobtainable with VVT-i
2 fully independent variable camshafts. can't do that in the Toyota. both
cams are in sync)


how is that hard to understand



also...

do not crap yourself when GM releases new cars with 45 mpg non-hybrid. the MPG ratings
of old are coming back, due to advances in catalyst technology GM just revealed. no longer will there be a need
to have as much unspent fuel fire the cat. they can now seriously reduce unburnt fuel and
keep emissions down. with current cat technology, you must have some unburnt fuel get wasted
to burn up in the cat or non-co2 (the toxic ones) emissions go through the roof. GM has new material that
cuts the need for unspent fuel way back, allowing more finite tuning of the cam and combustion process.

With all the fuel saving technology you'd think it get better mileage...? Right?

Either way 29/40 is the SFE, the super fuel saver. 29/36 is a stock yaris.

If there was SFE Yaris, I think it would surpass the Fiesta SFE.

The 29/40 is still pending EPA cert, says so on the site, even though it took me a minute to find where.

[127.0.0.1]

Originally Posted by slothman86

With all the fuel saving technology you'd think it get better mileage...? Right?

Either way 29/40 is the SFE, the super fuel saver. 29/36 is a stock yaris.

If there was SFE Yaris, I think it would surpass the Fiesta SFE.

The 29/40 is still pending EPA cert, says so on the site, even though it took me a minute to find where.

no, those are the official US Govt. EPA results as of May 17th, 2010

The EPA has finished calculating the fuel economy of the 2011 Ford Fiesta and, as the automaker projected, its new baby has hit 40 miles per gallon. The official numbers from the Feds are 29 mpg in the city and 40 mpg on the highway for Fiestas with the new 6-speed dual clutch Powershift gearbox.

it has (as all ULEV and SULEV cars have) DFCO but with a more aggressive map


it is still a POS Ford though. I am seeing Yaris's all over the place lately (I95/128/rt3 belt, Ma)
so I know it won't hurt Yaris sales much in my area. peeps know Fords are hunks-o-iron.

[slothman86]

Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1

no, those are the official US Govt. EPA results as of May 17th, 2010

The EPA has finished calculating the fuel economy of the 2011 Ford Fiesta and, as the automaker projected, its new baby has hit 40 miles per gallon. The official numbers from the Feds are 29 mpg in the city and 40 mpg on the highway for Fiestas with the new 6-speed dual clutch Powershift gearbox.

it has (as all ULEV and SULEV cars have) DFCO but with a more aggressive map


it is still a POS Ford though. I am seeing Yaris's all over the place lately (I95/128/rt3 belt, Ma)
so I know it won't hurt Yaris sales much in my area. peeps know Fords are hunks-o-iron.

It's not on the fuel economy site? Where'd you get that info?

[127.0.0.1]

Originally Posted by slothman86

It's not on the fuel economy site? Where'd you get that info?

no it is not on the fuel economy site you are correct.

I have my sources. I won't publicize them.

you can find it.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by slothman86

It's not on the fuel economy site? Where'd you get that info?

It's definitely EPA official.

http://i.autoblog.com/2010/05/17/off...011-ford-fies/

[slothman86]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

It's definitely EPA official.

http://i.autoblog.com/2010/05/17/off...011-ford-fies/

Thanks...

but still without some special system for fuel economy the Fiesta is still just 28/37. Which is really good!

but the Yaris has been around with almost the same mileage on this platform for...4 years? This Fiesta platform came out in 2008... but the POWERSHIFT option is ACCORDING TO MY SOURCES only a 2011 feature in the US.

I want to see how the next Yaris will perform!

[Yaris Hilton]

VVT-i, though it's called "variable valve timing," is actually a camshaft phase adjusting system. It is "variable cam timing." Difference in name only. Toyota has some engines with it on both camshafts, but the 1NZ-FE only has it on the intake where it matters most.

[bkrownd]

Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1

peeps know Fords are hunks-o-iron.

If Ford rents a bunch of TV time to show the funny segment from Top Gear where they race the Fiesta against the Corvette inside a shopping mall the sales would go berzerk.