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[RedHatch08]

Originally Posted by STC

Sad that where there is nice... there is ugly right next door! What is this telling you?

I use to live in Miami, FL. There is nice place just north of S. Miami on the bay called, "Coconut Grove" or simply the "Grove". The area turns from nice to bad... hard-ass slums within blocks! The dichotomy was so apparent.

...Again, what is this telling you?

This is something you really do see quite a bit in the US.

You can be in a nice area, walk a block or two, and suddenly find yourself in complete ghetto territory.

Downtown Detroit has nicer areas with the casinos, restaurants, sports venues, etc., but walk a few blocks the wrong way and holy sh!t, you will wish you were heavily armed.

[STC]

Originally Posted by RedHatch08

This is something you really do see quite a bit in the US.

You can be in a nice area, walk a block or two, and suddenly find yourself in complete ghetto territory.

Downtown Detroit has nicer areas with the casinos, restaurants, sports venues, etc., but walk a few blocks the wrong way and holy sh!t, you will wish you were heavily armed.

So true! You sound as if you are viewing it through an outside perspective? Canada? I use to spend time in Ontario, Canada in the late 90's. When traveling through Buffalo, NY to Hamilton, ON you can see a big difference. Buffalo has so much more slums compared to Canada's city of Hamilton... seems like Canada is more cleaner overall? IMHO. However, friends tell me there are some rough spots in Toronto.

Have not been to Detroit for years. My uncle lives in Bloomfield Hills, just south of the old Pontiac Silvedome. He always said, stay out of downtown! They must of fixed up the downtown area recently? Displacing the residents further into poverty!

[RedHatch08]

Originally Posted by STC

So true! You sound as if you are viewing it through an outside perspective? Canada? I use to spend time in Ontario, Canada in the late 90's. When traveling through Buffalo, NY to Hamilton, ON you can see a big difference. Buffalo has so much more slums compared to Canada's city of Hamilton... seems like Canada is more cleaner overall? IMHO. However, friends tell me there are some rough spots in Toronto.

Have not been to Detroit for years. My uncle lives in Bloomfield Hills, just south of the old Pontiac Silvedome. He always said, stay out of downtown! They must of fixed up the downtown area recently? Displacing the residents further into poverty!

Yeah it is from a different perspective than most people have.

I am from the Hamilton area. Canada is much cleaner and way more safe in general. It's really funny to me now, because when I'm back in Canada sometimes I hear people mention a "bad part of town" in Hamilton or Toronto, and I try not to laugh too hard.

Yes there are some gritty areas in Canada, but you're WAY less likely to get KILLED there than in the US.

A quick Google shows:

Detroit Murders in 2006 = 418 (47.3 per 100,000) (National Average 7 per 100,000)

All of Canada Murders in 2004 = 622 (1.9 per 100,00)

... Obviously those stats are not for the same year, but it gives you a small indicator of the difference.