New Engine Management System offered for the 1NZFE

[cali yaris]

^ It is for anyone that (1) doesn't want to custom wire into their car and (2) wants the ability to undo it later quite easily and (3) wants the control of a standalone with the ease of a piggyback.

[Parmas]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

^ It is for anyone that (1) doesn't want to custom wire into their car and (2) wants the ability to undo it later quite easily and (3) wants the control of a standalone with the ease of a piggyback.

I am happy that groups like Allan Phillips Racing and Dezod Motorsports are putting interest on our engine but I am still not convinced about the ecu versus price tag.

1.) VVTi Control :- One of the disadvantages I already seeing is that the X-one ecu is not capable of controlling the Variable Cam Timing but it is the stock ecu that handles it. For stock users it's not a big deal but people buying aftermarket ecus are not willing to remain stock. If running a built motor with forced induction the need to control VVTi is essential.


2.) Anti- Lag Launch Control:- Is one of the features that I like on aftermarket ecus and this seems that it hasn't any.

3.) Map Sensor:- Normally this is built into the ecu. Does the X-one ecu has it?

4.) Aux System :- Does this AUX recognizes only sensor inputs? What about output controls ?

5.) Regarding Price with 2K I bought a Haltech Ecu 1000 (Ones that compete with Motec systems) + Haltech external ignitors + Haltech dual channel wideband + Haltech Air/Water Temp calibrated + Shipping.

[Dezod]

Originally Posted by Parmas

I am happy that groups like Allan Phillips Racing and Dezod Motorsports are putting interest on our engine but I am still not convinced about the ecu versus price tag.

1.) VVTi Control :- One of the disadvantages I already seeing is that the X-one ecu is not capable of controlling the Variable Cam Timing but it is the stock ecu that handles it. For stock users it's not a big deal but people buying aftermarket ecus are not willing to remain stock. If running a built motor with forced induction the need to control VVTi is essential.


2.) Anti- Lag Launch Control:- Is one of the features that I like on aftermarket ecus and this seems that it hasn't any.

3.) Map Sensor:- Normally this is built into the ecu. Does the X-one ecu has it?

4.) Aux System :- Does this AUX recognizes only sensor inputs? What about output controls ?

5.) Regarding Price with 2K I bought a Haltech Ecu 1000 (Ones that compete with Motec systems) + Haltech external ignitors + Haltech dual channel wideband + Haltech Air/Water Temp calibrated + Shipping.

1) The stock ECU does a decent job of doing VVT on the platform. So, the X1 lets the stock ECU operate that. Tuning VVT is cumbersome for sure. There are gains there, but we sold our Scion tC AEM EMS with the capability of tuning it, and of all of the units sold, I can count on one hand how many people actually took the time to tune it.

2) This unit has 2 step launch control. Fully programmable for your needs. VSS threshold, fixed ign spark and rpm launch point.

3) No MAP sensors. This setup uses MAF, which is much more accurate and makes nice small changes on the fly with respect to temp variation, baro pressure and small VE changes.

4) The aux inputs and outputs can be used a number of different ways. You can get real creative, but most use them for IC sprayers, shift lights and additional sensors like multiple EGT inputs or thermocouples.

5) Having played with MANY different standalones over time, I was not impressed with Haltech at all. I wish you luck with it, and for the record, having played with both systems, that system is nowhere near Motec. Motec is LIGHTYEARS ahead of Haltech. Haltech is like a 5th grader and Motec is like a high school grad.

The unit comes with a complete wiring harness for the application, which makes foe ease of install or un-install.

[Parmas]

Originally Posted by Dezod

1) The stock ECU does a decent job of doing VVT on the platform. So, the X1 lets the stock ECU operate that. Tuning VVT is cumbersome for sure. There are gains there, but we sold our Scion tC AEM EMS with the capability of tuning it, and of all of the units sold, I can count on one hand how many people actually took the time to tune it.

2) This unit has 2 step launch control. Fully programmable for your needs. VSS threshold, fixed ign spark and rpm launch point.

3) No MAP sensors. This setup uses MAF, which is much more accurate and makes nice small changes on the fly with respect to temp variation, baro pressure and small VE changes.

4) The aux inputs and outputs can be used a number of different ways. You can get real creative, but most use them for IC sprayers, shift lights and additional sensors like multiple EGT inputs or thermocouples.

5) Having played with MANY different standalones over time, I was not impressed with Haltech at all. I wish you luck with it, and for the record, having played with both systems, that system is nowhere near Motec. Motec is LIGHTYEARS ahead of Haltech. Haltech is like a 5th grader and Motec is like a high school grad.

The unit comes with a complete wiring harness for the application, which makes foe ease of install or un-install.

That's a good reply and sure seems tempting to own one especially for those in progress to build their engines.

Although I hope you are wrong with Haltech since this isn't cheap to obtain. Keep in mind that Haltech has a wide range of ecus from the cheapest E6X to the best Platinum Sprint Series. Mine is the Platinum Sport series which is one of their tops.

If you posted this some weeks ago, I would be thinking of yours anyway.

Keep us updated

[Dezod]

Originally Posted by Parmas

That's a good reply and sure seems tempting to own one especially for those in progress to build their engines.

Although I hope you are wrong with Haltech since this isn't cheap to obtain. Keep in mind that Haltech has a wide range of ecus from the cheapest E6X to the best Platinum Sprint Series. Mine is the Platinum Sport series which is one of their tops.

If you posted this some weeks ago, I would be thinking of yours anyway.

Keep us updated

The Platinum series was quite weak IMO. I was like a watered down AEM EMS.