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Old 08-27-2010, 12:21 PM   #1
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Because it justifies the price hikes and creates doubt which then influences the markets, wake up people this is all a big scam (gas prices). This is how a few control the many
Bingo... exactly. The entire "world order" is built around petrol-dollar control. Both world wars were made to happen because of it. A really excellent book on this not widely known true history of oil is: A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order by William Engdahl. Here in the states gas price is controlled by limiting refining.

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Old 08-27-2010, 12:38 PM   #2
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Bingo... exactly. The entire "world order" is built around petrol-dollar control. Both world wars were made to happen because of it. A really excellent book on this not widely known true history of oil is: A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order by William Engdahl. Here in the states gas price is controlled by limiting refining.

http://www.amazon.com/Century-War-An.../dp/074532309X
Are you trying to make an argument for or against saving gas? If we use less gas and find other energy sources we'd end the petrol-dollar system we have.
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Old 08-27-2010, 12:55 PM   #3
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Are you trying to make an argument for or against saving gas? If we use less gas and find other energy sources we'd end the petrol-dollar system we have.
I'm saying

1)Petroleum is probably limitless but that at the very least we are not running out anytime soon

2)The powers that be will not let us get away from petroleum because the entire world order is built around it

3)I'm saying Global warming is not caused by man but by naturally occuring cycle but that will not stop the control freaks that have eugenics and totalitarian fascistic agendas from using it to tighten their vice grips on peoples lives.

I'd like nothing better than to never have to purchase gasoline again, to drive and electic vehicle with juice I maded on my property from the sun and the wind and or an internal combustion fueled by hydrogen produced from water sun and wind. All completely doable but no before taking our live back from those who seek to dominate us.
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Old 08-27-2010, 02:01 PM   #4
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nmgolfer, you really need to substantiate your claims.
Also, what do eugenics and totalitarianism have to do with getting people to put less greenhouse gases in the air?
Also gem diamonds are not plentiful while industrial ones are (and some can be produced synthetically). Gem diamond prices are also over inflated because DeBeers holds a monopoly in the market. Comparing diamonds to oil is not a fair analogy.
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Old 08-28-2010, 01:25 AM   #6
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nmgolfer, you really need to substantiate your claims.
Also, what do eugenics and totalitarianism have to do with getting people to put less greenhouse gases in the air?
Also gem diamonds are not plentiful while industrial ones are (and some can be produced synthetically). Gem diamond prices are also over inflated because DeBeers holds a monopoly in the market. Comparing diamonds to oil is not a fair analogy.
I don't have to substantiate anything. You're free to choose to remain ignorant. This is not a debate class. Eugenics and totalitarianism have everything to do with the phony ginned up anthropogenic "climate change" scam. Diamonds are a perfectly good analogy, both are commodities in abundant supply that are use to generate tremendous wealth for a select few mainly by market manipulation.

Do you know what the number one greenhouse gas is? Its water vapor. What will the control freaks come up with next? Banning cloud formation? Do you know what the source of cloud formation (water vapor) in the atmosphere is? Ill give you a hint ... its the same thing thats causing warming (that is if the climate warm-mongers data is even valid) Its the sun... ions from the sun in combination with micro particulates. You can substantiate that for yourself as well.

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3)I'm saying Global warming is not caused by man but by naturally occuring cycle but that will not stop the control freaks that have eugenics and totalitarian fascistic agendas from using it to tighten their vice grips on peoples lives.

We'll you are right when you say that man is not the "cause" of global warming. However, I haven't heard any credible source blaming man for global warming. It is a natural cycle that has been occurring. The real argument is whether our actions are bringing on Global Climate Change at rather accelerated rate.
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Old 08-28-2010, 01:37 AM   #8
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We'll you are right when you say that man is not the "cause" of global warming. However, I haven't heard any credible source blaming man for global warming. It is a natural cycle that has been occurring. The real argument is whether our actions are bringing on Global Climate Change at rather accelerated rate.

Theres no question... man has no measurable influence on the climate. One volcanic eruption... you know like the one that recently occured in Iceland shutting down air traffic in Europe releases more CO2 into the atmosphere that everything cumulatively mankind has ever released. Did you know most volcanic activity is under the sea where it goes unmonitored and detected? Yep... theres your souce of CO2 but the warm-mongers will not discuss it... can't be blamed on Mankind's activities.

Arsenic in any concentration is a poison. It may not make one person sick (while another dies...) in low dosage but its still a poison. CO2 on the otherhand is not a poison or a pollutant. CO2 is released into the atmosphere when the Earths climate warms... it an EFFECT not a CAUSE. Its been in much higher concentrations with no ill effects for living creatures in the past too.

Heres the real problem... some in this country are so dumbed down they conflate carbon monoxide which they know can kill and comes out of an auto's exhaust pipe with carbon dioxide which is essential for photosynthesis hence life as we know it.

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