Manual Transmission...Safety Issue!!!

[koolerking]

I'll also say i agree with the thread starter. I've been driving for 20 years, 95% of that with a manual. After owning my manual 2007 1.3 yaris I still have the same issues. At first i just thought it was me getting used to manual after driving my old auto subaru, but after 18 months the clutch pick up and throttle lag coming off the gas it is still annoying the hell out me. I have stalled it due to the clutch "bogging down" when it hasn't enough gas from off the line, to the opposite of spinning the wheels all the way through to second (on a hill start) when you give it enough throttle to not bog down!

I hate it! Are any of these after market ECU's any good at the throttle lag? Is the clutch hydraulic or cable? If it hydraulic is it controlled by the ECU and therefore able to be adjusted with a uprated brain?

Id also like to add the spinning of wheels isn't helped by the fact the yaris is VERY light on its front end, even with new Dunlops on!

[woof]

Originally Posted by koolerking

I'll also say i agree with the thread starter. I've been driving for 20 years, 95% of that with a manual. After owning my manual 2007 1.3 yaris I still have the same issues. At first i just thought it was me getting used to manual after driving my old auto subaru, but after 18 months the clutch pick up and throttle lag coming off the gas it is still annoying the hell out me. I have stalled it due to the clutch "bogging down" when it hasn't enough gas from off the line, to the opposite of spinning the wheels all the way through to second (on a hill start) when you give it enough throttle to not bog down!

I hate it! Are any of these after market ECU's any good at the throttle lag? Is the clutch hydraulic or cable? If it hydraulic is it controlled by the ECU and therefore able to be adjusted with a uprated brain?

Id also like to add the spinning of wheels isn't helped by the fact the yaris is VERY light on its front end, even with new Dunlops on!

Well, I still have my hatch and I still manage to kill it once in a while. I have figured out that the first year I had mine that I didn't realize 'dead pedal' was keeping me from getting my foot all the way down to the floorboard. This means that initial clutch take up was nearly zero. It took a long while to actually look and see the geography of the dead pedal and clutch pedal. Once I saw the clutch pedal was nearly dead center of the steering column I adjusted my foot and started getting the pedal all the way down. My xB1 didn't have this dead pedal AND it had a higher numerical overall final drive number--it was geared lower to keep that brick moving through air on the highway. I think this higher overall ratio made it easier to launch the xB1. The Yaris is definitely designed for high mileage unlike my xB1.

Toyota is definitely at fault for the pedal location. What puzzles me is that it was designed in Europe (as I recall) and they don't have dainty feet either!

My greatest disappointment has been the failure of my dealer or Gulf States to do the right thing on this. They know there are problems.