TRD sway bar for sedan

[Yaris TTE JWRC]

A rear sway bar on a torsion beam rear suspension is really not doing anything, because the torsion beam rear suspension is already bulided in one piece, what the torsion beam rear suspension need is a rear sturt bar that goes on top of both rear shocks in the back cabin to really help to reduce body roll, just like what the front sturt bar does and goes under the hood.

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Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

A rear sway bar on a torsion beam rear suspension is really not doing anything, because the torsion beam rear suspension is already bulided in one piece, what the torsion beam rear suspension need is a rear sturt bar that goes on top of both rear shocks in the back cabin to really help to reduce body roll, just like what the front sturt bar does and goes under the hood.

That is 100% wrong.

Strut bars do not decrease body roll, they decrease chassis flex. Also, you don't understand the difference between a strut and a shock. A strut is a load bearing member of the suspension. If you remove it the car will not be able to sit on its wheels. A shock is non load bearing, and if you removed it alone, the car would still sit on its wheels.

The very essence of a torsion beam suspension is based on lateral flex. Anything you put on the beam (a swaybar) to reduce the flex of the arms will decrease body roll. Actually, This type of suspension responds BETTER to a sway bar than other types because the bar is bolted directly to the arms, no endlinks, no bushings, nothing to dampen the bar.

Hope this helps.

Ashley

[Chris07LB]

I knew Ashley would school that responce with some very helpful answers.

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Originally Posted by Chris07LB

I knew Ashley would school that responce with some very helpful answers.

You know me already :)

[Yaris TTE JWRC]

Originally Posted by largeorangefont

That is 100% wrong.

Strut bars do not decrease body roll, they decrease chassis flex. Also, you don't understand the difference between a strut and a shock. A strut is a load bearing member of the suspension. If you remove it the car will not be able to sit on its wheels. A shock is non load bearing, and if you removed it alone, the car would still sit on its wheels.

The very essence of a torsion beam suspension is based on lateral flex. Anything you put on the beam (a swaybar) to reduce the flex of the arms will decrease body roll. Actually, This type of suspension responds BETTER to a sway bar than other types because the bar is bolted directly to the arms, no endlinks, no bushings, nothing to dampen the bar.

Hope this helps.

Ashley

what ever you say, i had the TRD rear sway bar on my old echo, and i didnt feel sh!t, maybe you think it does make a difference because you paid big bucks for it, and it's all in your head, bottom line is, i did not feel any difference it made and im not going to lie about it to make myself happy just because i pay the bucks for it, enjoy your rear sway bar.

[ChinoCharles]

Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

what ever you say, i had the TRD rear sway bar on my old echo, and i didnt feel sh!t, maybe you think it does make a difference because you paid big bucks for it, and it's all in your head, bottom line is, i did not feel any difference it made and im not going to lie about it to make myself happy just because i pay the bucks for it, enjoy your rear sway bar.

[Yaris TTE JWRC]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

[Go4th]

Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

enjoy your rear sway bar.

[Yaris TTE JWRC]

Originally Posted by Go4th

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Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

what ever you say, i had the TRD rear sway bar on my old echo, and i didnt feel sh!t, maybe you think it does make a difference because you paid big bucks for it, and it's all in your head, bottom line is, i did not feel any difference it made and im not going to lie about it to make myself happy just because i pay the bucks for it, enjoy your rear sway bar.

I'm not trying to call you out or anything, but you info was just wrong. You provide insightful information in other areas but in this case it is incorrect. I just don't like seeing misinformation spread. Nothing personal.

I don't have a bar yet, but will be ordering one very soon. The Xa/Xb owners tell a very different story than you regarding the effectivness of the rear sway bars. It seems like the Scions have a suspension closer in design to ours than the older Echos. Mabye the echo bar wasn't designed as well or was less effective for whatever reason. I am confidant a rear sway bar will provide the best handling gain in the Yaris platform aside from tires.

Ashley

[Yaris TTE JWRC]

Originally Posted by largeorangefont

I'm not trying to call you out or anything, but you info was just wrong. You provide insightful information in other areas but in this case it is incorrect. I just don't like seeing misinformation spread. Nothing personal.

I don't have a bar yet, but will be ordering one very soon. The Xa/Xb owners tell a very different story than you regarding the effectivness of the rear sway bars. It seems like the Scions have a suspension closer in design to ours than the older Echos. Mabye the echo bar wasn't designed as well or was less effective for whatever reason. I am confidant a rear sway bar will provide the best handling gain in the Yaris platform aside from tires.

Ashley

by the way all the TRD parts for the Scion Xa , and Xb are also works for the echo, they all have the same chassis and engine, so im not sure if your info is right, and the Yaris is a totally different car from the Echo, Xa, and Xb, maybe you need to do more researches, i have been on the Siconlife forum for a long time, so dont get me wrog.

[Yaris TTE JWRC]

Just to let y'all know that im only speak and confirm the things that i have done before, and i know what will, and what will not work on the Yaris as I look at my own Yaris and my old Echo, everything desgined for the Scion Xa and Xb fits my Echo because they all have the same chassis, engine, and tranny, Yaris is a totally new and different car from the old Xa, Xb, and echo, and I aint gonna BullSh*t y'all, if you dont trust what im telling you and you want to waste your money, go ahead go for it, i dont give a damn
just trying to help, i guess not

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Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

Just to let y'all know that im only speak and confirm the things that i have done before, and i know what will, and what will not work on the Yaris as I look at my own Yaris and my old Echo, everything desgined for the Scion Xa and Xb fits my Echo because they all have the same chassis, engine, and tranny, Yaris is a totally new and different car from the old Xa, Xb, and echo, and I aint gonna BullSh*t y'all, if you dont trust what im telling you and you want to waste your money, go ahead go for it, i dont give a damn
just trying to help, i guess not

Not that I even understand much of that, but if the Yaris is totally different than the Echo and the Xa/Xb, then why are you saying that the Yaris TRD rear swaybar won't work based on your experience with a rear swaybar on your old Echo, which by your own admission is a different car?

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Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

what ever you say, i had the TRD rear sway bar on my old echo, and i didnt feel sh!t, maybe you think it does make a difference because you paid big bucks for it, and it's all in your head, bottom line is, i did not feel any difference it made and im not going to lie about it to make myself happy just because i pay the bucks for it, enjoy your rear sway bar.

You must be the only person on earth that cannot feel the benefit of a rear sway bar upgrade on a FWD car.....course it could be because you painted your STEELIES WHITE!!!