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Old 01-04-2011, 02:27 PM   #19
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^ A lot, as Tamago said, they're a 1 piece casting.
1-piece wheels are typically lighter than a 3-piece - there are no fasteners and no replicated flanges. Look at SSR or Rays (or the ever popular RPF1). It is not the number of pieces that determine the weight, it is the quality and type of construction.

The 1-piece Forgelines on my RX-8 are nearly 1lb lighter than the same wheel in a 3-piece.
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Old 01-04-2011, 03:44 PM   #20
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1 piece wheels that are made to be lightweight, racing wheels, yes. But an old school wheel like the Enkei 92 - most 2 or 3 piece wheels were made with forged barrels/lips which result in lighter weight and more durability. So I'm guessing the original Enkei 92 will be a lot lighter than the re-makes.

I'm no expert, just what I've read on teh interwebz. Also just discouraged they would re-make a legendary wheel but make it a cheaper quality, 1 piece cast. It's like they are Rota'ing themselves. (yes, thats a verb now.)
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Old 01-04-2011, 03:58 PM   #21
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(Not that the original ones were lightweight at all, 13 lbs. on a 14x6.)
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:04 PM   #22
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1 piece wheels that are made to be lightweight, racing wheels, yes. But an old school wheel like the Enkei 92 - most 2 or 3 piece wheels were made with forged barrels/lips which result in lighter weight and more durability. So I'm guessing the original Enkei 92 will be a lot lighter than the re-makes.

I'm no expert, just what I've read on teh interwebz. Also just discouraged they would re-make a legendary wheel but make it a cheaper quality, 1 piece cast. It's like they are Rota'ing themselves. (yes, thats a verb now.)
Cast wheel is way to broad of a term. Yes, gravity cast wheels are heavy and weak. But a low pressure cast, high pressure cast or spun cast wheel is suitable for the track. Most of the current Enkei stuff is top notch, and I would argue that what is crap today (as far as wheel tech standards) is better than when that wheel was originally built.

We raced all year on a set of cheap 11lb low pressure cast wheels, no problems. And these were wrapped with a 10.5" wide slick. That is a stress test.

And I have seen just as many SSR forged wheels fail as I have seen cast Rota's. There is always more to the story than a simple failure.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:35 PM   #23
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I'm not talking about failures, just forged vs. casting weight-wise. But yes - you know a lot more about it then me. I'm just assuming they didn't build these for being lightweight (same as the originals). Will wait to see a published weight though - looks like they're coming out in March?
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Old 01-04-2011, 06:43 PM   #24
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March looks correct, and I should have some pricing soon. I'm trying to reserve a few sets, because I know they are going to sell quickly.
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:24 PM   #25
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can you get a better price then what I posted?

i want to get a set of these fo sho
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:47 PM   #26
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Wow, about $160USD per copy, not cheap!
I do like them though, especially the GOLD!
I remember as a teen in the '80s seeing these on a 320i. And now I'm thinking of how perfectly they suited those cars from my youth...
Did'nt the old Trans Am GTAs rock these too?
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:16 PM   #27
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no those were the old honey comb wheels
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