D4D Diesel for USA?

[bronsin]

What would the diesel option cost?

[cherry tomato]

Originally Posted by bronsin

What would the diesel option cost?

More than it is worth.
I have a diesel truck. I bought it when diesel used to be cheaper than gas. It still gets a little better mileage than the v10 gas engine that are comparable in HP and torque, but the initial cost, maintenance cost, higher fuel cost, just don't make up for the difference.
10 years ago, diesel trucks used to get 20+ mpg, now the new trucks get around 10-12. New "technology" or EPA requirements seem to be killing their mpg performance.
Also, the manufacturers need to claim most HP and torque (400 and 600 is the claim to fame now) doesn't help efficiency.

If my little 15k Yaris can get 37mpg, I am fine with that. Thats better than most motorcycles I ride get.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by cherry tomato

More than it is worth.
I have a diesel truck. I bought it when diesel used to be cheaper than gas. It still gets a little better mileage than the v10 gas engine that are comparable in HP and torque, but the initial cost, maintenance cost, higher fuel cost, just don't make up for the difference.
10 years ago, diesel trucks used to get 20+ mpg, now the new trucks get around 10-12. New "technology" or EPA requirements seem to be killing their mpg performance.
Also, the manufacturers need to claim most HP and torque (400 and 600 is the claim to fame now) doesn't help efficiency.

If my little 15k Yaris can get 37mpg, I am fine with that. Thats better than most motorcycles I ride get.

Right. A diesel engine is no better an economic proposition that a hybrid. But I wondered just how much they would want for one. I had a 240d with a 4 speed ten years ago. I remember getting diesel when it was 79 cents and regular was 99 cents. Those were the days!

My ST1300 is getting 31 mpg this winter and so is the Yaris. The Yaris will do 36 mpg in summer. At those numbers the Yaris is the most cost effective vehicle out there. People buying hybrids only serves to reinforce my suspicion that IQs have dropped sharply in this country lately.