Federal Govt. expecting shutdown on APRIL 9TH

[Shinare]

Originally Posted by cdydjded

I did read what you post. But what you seem not to understand the difference between a "furlough" (temporary layoff from work, unpaid) & getting fired (permanent layoff from work, unpaid). Why should government workers not suffer the same fate as private sector workers? Why does the government not run like a business? The answer comes down to votes! You are not going to vote out of office the person who keeps you employed even though they are destroying the private sector.....

I take it then you are employed by a public agency? Seeing as how you know so much about it. My personal experience is that our small agency has FIRED PERMANENTLY people that we need and "retired" others in the past 3 years. In order to stem off any more losses the rest of us have to furlough every month so that we all can at least have a job.

You may think you understand how a public entity works, but you are mistaken. We all have a budget, and that budget is based on tax income. Because tax revenue is in the toilet (due to lower work force and more saving), our budgets have gotten cut back %10-%15 CUMULATIVE every year for the past 3 years. When we were barely squeaking by to begin with, it doesn't take a math genius to tell where you are going to cut your budget. Payroll is the only place you can make a dent of that magnitude. There's only so many paperclips and staples you can do without.

So tell me again, your theory on how public institutions are not affected by this recession?

[cdydjded]

Originally Posted by Shinare

I take it then you are employed by a public agency? Seeing as how you know so much about it. My personal experience is that our small agency has FIRED PERMANENTLY people that we need and "retired" others in the past 3 years. In order to stem off any more losses the rest of us have to furlough every month so that we all can at least have a job.

You may think you understand how a public entity works, but you are mistaken. We all have a budget, and that budget is based on tax income. Because tax revenue is in the toilet (due to lower work force and more saving), our budgets have gotten cut back %10-%15 CUMULATIVE every year for the past 3 years. When we were barely squeaking by to begin with, it doesn't take a math genius to tell where you are going to cut your budget. Payroll is the only place you can make a dent of that magnitude. There's only so many paperclips and staples you can do without.

So tell me again, your theory on how public institutions are not affected by this recession?

Your state is $17,254,404,041 in debt (http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/...a_state_budget). You are # 2 in the nation. California is # 1. Yes you state has a budget & it clearly based on the amount of debt it is in means absolutely nothing. Im a small business owner. My budget is met every month or bills dont get paid & my employees go home with out a paycheck. You state budget get blown out of the water & either it raises taxes or borrows more money it cannot repay. Reasons are many why you were "barely squeaking by". Things like pensions which are unsustainable & out of control wages. Example:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...eral-pay_N.htm

[Shinare]

Originally Posted by cdydjded

Your state is $17,254,404,041 in debt (http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/...a_state_budget). You are # 2 in the nation. California is # 1. Yes you state has a budget & it clearly based on the amount of debt it is in means absolutely nothing. Im a small business owner. My budget is met every month or bills dont get paid & my employees go home with out a paycheck. You state budget get blown out of the water & either it raises taxes or borrows more money it cannot repay. Reasons are many why you were "barely squeaking by". Things like pensions which are unsustainable & out of control wages. Example:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...eral-pay_N.htm

*sigh* I guess I don't understand what you are trying to argue. You stated that govt. jobs are not affected by the recession. I've given you specific examples of how they are including the laying off of people where I work due to not having the funding due to the recession as well as furloughs for the rest of us. *shrug* Believe what you want but govt jobs are not the golden parachute you seem to think they are.